Topic: Coast to Coast No Longer in Chicago

[punkinpie]

WLS has replaced C2C with something called Red Eye Radio.  I think it's a trucker's program that runs all night. 

I am a Coast Insider (yeah, yeah, yeah, whatever) but sometimes enjoyed listening live.  It sucks.   

[MV]

it may suck, but we have over 400 pages of well documented SUCK to explain why this has happened.

[DangerousBlossom]

it may suck, but we have over 400 pages of well documented SUCK to explain why this has happened.

Sure Noory and c2c suck, but this Red Eye Radio doesn't sound like the cat's meow either.  Personally I still listen to c2c .  Even though it sucks, other radio (lots of other radio) suck worse.

I do have my limits however.  I don't watch TV.   Maybe some TV doesn't suck but I don't have the patience to wade thru the suckiness to find it.

[punkinpie]

Sure Noory and c2c suck, but this Red Eye Radio doesn't sound like the cat's meow either.  Personally I still listen to c2c .  Even though it sucks, other radio (lots of other radio) suck worse.

I do have my limits however.  I don't watch TV.   Maybe some TV doesn't suck but I don't have the patience to wade thru the suckiness to find it.

Right now it sounds like Red Eye Radio's mission is to convert union truckers to Republicans.  It's definitely NOT the cat's meow. 

Didn't I read here that Clear Channel had a rule that if you have Rush you have to have C2C?  WLS still has Rush, so it makes me wonder if that rule has changed and why.  Was Premiere or C2C sold off?  I've listened to many stations across the country and if they have Rush, you can put money that they have C2C. 

In the spirit of a paranoid C2C listener, George did mention a meeting with suits in the past couple of weeks.  He said that they wanted to know what his views were because they couldn't tell from listening.  His response was along the lines of that it was his intention to keep his personal views private and provide a platform for guests and callers. 

[stevesh]

WLS has replaced C2C with something called Red Eye Radio.  I think it's a trucker's program that runs all night. 

Same thing happened where I live. Redeye Radio (Eddie Coyle mentioned that it was called 'Midnight Trucker' up until a month ago) is far worse than C2C. I call it 'John and Jeff for Hillbillies'. On the plus side, i now know how much it costs to fill up a Peterbilt in Durango. and Bakersfield. and Omaha. and Boise. and Orlando. and Billings. and Atlanta.

[McPhallus]

And you know WLS is a major station. I'm seeing a trend here, and you know the suits are going to take notice when red eye, shitpile that it is, seems to be supplanting Coast in several markets.   

WLS has replaced C2C with something called Red Eye Radio.  I think it's a trucker's program that runs all night. 

I am a Coast Insider (yeah, yeah, yeah, whatever) but sometimes enjoyed listening live.  It sucks.   

[MV]

Right now it sounds like Red Eye Radio's mission is to convert union truckers to Republicans.

there are still union truckers out there?

...i now know how much it costs to fill up a Peterbilt in Durango. and Bakersfield. and Omaha. and Boise. and Orlando. and Billings. and Atlanta.

lol, awesome.  vital information to possess.

[punkinpie]

Same thing happened where I live. Redeye Radio (Eddie Coyle mentioned that it was called 'Midnight Trucker' up until a month ago) is far worse than C2C. I call it 'John and Jeff for Hillbillies'. On the plus side, i now know how much it costs to fill up a Peterbilt in Durango. and Bakersfield. and Omaha. and Boise. and Orlando. and Billings. and Atlanta.

Where are you?

[punkinpie]

 I found an article that said that Cumulus stations have dropped C2C in most cities.  WLS was recently acquired by Cumulus.  It looks like Albuquerque, Binghamton, Chicago, Kansas City, Providence, Wilmington, NC and Washington DC all were affected. 

Wilmington and Providence had new stations pick up the show.  I hope that happens here. 

[CoastCanuck]

Is this a case of shutting down the message?  Just curious.  Many of the topics on C2C present an alternative point of view than that of the main stream media.

[MV]

Is this a case of shutting down the message?  Just curious.  Many of the topics on C2C present an alternative point of view than that of the main stream media.

i guess anything is possible, but my guess is that the simplest answer is likely the most accurate one:  c2c in 2012 is a ratings black hole.

[coaster]

I dont get it. if i was a trucker, the last thing i would want to listen to is a show about trucking while Im working. it would just be too much. I thought the point of radio was to help you escape and make the time pass while youre working.  why anyone would want to work while listen to a show about their work is beyond me.  it makes my head hurt just thinking about it.

[punkinpie]

I dont get it. if i was a trucker, the last thing i would want to listen to is a show about trucking while Im working. it would just be too much. I thought the point of radio was to help you escape and make the time pass while youre working.  why anyone would want to work while listen to a show about their work is beyond me.  it makes my head hurt just thinking about it.

It sounds like torture!    There's nothing like a little bug in your ear droning on and on about the things that really piss you off like gas prices and politics. 

i guess anything is possible, but my guess is that the simplest answer is likely the most accurate one:  c2c in 2012 is a ratings black hole.

From what I read it isn't so much ratings, it was dollars.  Red Eye Radio is Cumulus' own show.  I am guilty of complaining about C2C, but compared to this show C2C is the best thing since sliced bread.   

Just out of curiosity, I went to my hometown radio station's (930 WHON) website to see if they still carry the show.  They've changed formats in the last few months and they've dropped it too.

[DangerousBlossom]

I listen to c2c on a Cumulus station -- KSFO in San Francisco.  If you go to their website there is a button for listening live over the internet.  It is free.  Probably other stations have this too.

[MV]

I dont get it. if i was a trucker, the last thing i would want to listen to is a show about trucking while Im working. it would just be too much. I thought the point of radio was to help you escape and make the time pass while youre working.  why anyone would want to work while listen to a show about their work is beyond me.  it makes my head hurt just thinking about it.

dude, you'd be surprised. 


i drove a truck all over the united states for a few years and in the course of those years, i probably had a substantive conversation with other truck drivers a total of 5 times.  they don't know how to talk about ANYTHING other than trucking.  it's sickening.  i pretty much stayed out of truck stops as much as possible and kept to myself because i felt like i was soooo out of place among those people.  when they DO try to talk about something other than trucking, it's like watching a fish try to play a piano.  many of them started driving a truck as soon as they were old enough to do so, and then continued living in a box on the road for the subsequent decades with nearly zero meaningful social interaction and no exposure to anything that could help one grow intellectually.  i know these are broad, sweeping generalizations, but go do that job for a few years and tell me you won't come away with the same impression.  i almost NEVER turned on the CB radio because of the vapidity of the voices on the other end.  on the rare occasion i DID turn on the CB, i would encounter nothing but shit from a collection of gutter trash who were upset that i'm capable of speaking proper english and can read.  it's just insufferable, so yeah, i'm not shocked at all that these people would want to listen to that midnight trucker bilge.


i spent my time on the road listening to phil hendrie, fox news on XM, phil hendrie, opie and anthony, rollye james, and phil hendrie.  i at least felt like i was exposing myself to intelligent, coherent thought processes and ideas that inspired some modicum of intellectual consideration. the alternative is listening to some trucker complain about our oppressive government that gave him a ticket for driving with no functional headlights and 10,000 pounds overweight on his rear tandems.

[punkinpie]

I listen to c2c on a Cumulus station -- KSFO in San Francisco.  If you go to their website there is a button for listening live over the internet.  It is free.  Probably other stations have this too.

For now San Francisco and Dallas are among the few Cumulus stations that are still carrying C2C.

http://radioinsight.com/blog/headlines/55823/cumulus-dropping-coast-to-coast-am-in-multiple-markets/#.T0iIu_Egeuw

[stevesh]

Where are you?

I'm in Lansing, Michigan. WJIM 1240 AM (the 900 watt blowtorch) switched to Redeye on Tuesday. It sounds like you're probably right - Cumulus switched as many of its stations as it could to its own show.

I can still hear C2C on stations from Roanoke, VA and Albany, NY (love that AM radio) but the reception isn't great.

[Scully]

Right now it sounds like Red Eye Radio's mission is to convert union truckers to Republicans.  It's definitely NOT the cat's meow. 

Didn't I read here that Clear Channel had a rule that if you have Rush you have to have C2C?  WLS still has Rush, so it makes me wonder if that rule has changed and why.  Was Premiere or C2C sold off?  I've listened to many stations across the country and if they have Rush, you can put money that they have C2C. 

In the spirit of a paranoid C2C listener, George did mention a meeting with suits in the past couple of weeks.  He said that they wanted to know what his views were because they couldn't tell from listening.  His response was along the lines of that it was his intention to keep his personal views private and provide a platform for guests and callers.

Anyone who has listened to George to any extent at all and can't tell which way his flag flies is way dumber than me ... which fits Premiere's suits like tailor made. 

[punkinpie]

Anyone who has listened to George to any extent at all and can't tell which way his flag flies is way dumber than me ... which fits Premiere's suits like tailor made. 

Do you think it was angels? 

Seriously, I just found a story that says Cumulus signed Mike Huckabee to compete with Rush.  That explains why they were able to get rid of C2C.  They aren't keeping Rush on much longer.  Huckabee's show is supposed to launch on April 2nd.

On the Saturday show I heard John Wells say that the "radio landscape is changing" and it was important to sign up to be a Coast Insider.  How long until it's just a podcast?

[awguy]

On the Saturday show I heard John Wells say that the "radio landscape is changing" and it was important to sign up to be a Coast Insider.  How long until it's just a podcast?

Huuuum, very interesting indeed. Wells comment combined with Knapp's comment Sunday about dropped affiliates really makes you think. Is it really possible... The once unstoppable Coast to Coast AM relegated to a podcast?

Radio Writer Jerry Del Colliano (insidemusicmedia.com) is suggesting that the days for c2c are numbered. Unfortunately, that's all I know. One has to subscribe to his articles to read more than 3 lines.

Red Eye Radio used to be a great show. This is what WABC dropped c2c in order to carry. The host (Doug McIntyre) took open line calls all night, he reminded me of the way Art Bell handled open lines. Unfortunately with the Citadel-Cumulus Merger a few months ago, Doug was re-assigned to morning host in LA and the "Midnight Trucking Network" absorbed the Red Eye Radio name and it's affiliates.

Red Eye was growing rapidly until the merger. In only a year and a half on the air, they had gone from Two affiliates the first night to over 100 and had replaced, or was beating c2c in many markets... including New York.

[Eddie Coyle]

Red Eye Radio used to be a great show. This is what WABC dropped c2c in order to carry. The host (Doug McIntyre) took open line calls all night, he reminded me of the way Art Bell handled open lines. Unfortunately with the Citadel-Cumulus Merger a few months ago, Doug was re-assigned to morning host in LA and the "Midnight Trucking Network" absorbed the Red Eye Radio name and it's affiliates.

Red Eye was growing rapidly until the merger. In only a year and a half on the air, they had gone from Two affiliates the first night to over 100 and had replaced, or was beating c2c in many markets... including New York.

     Red Eye is being dumbed down for mass consumption. McIntyre's departure totally altered the show, it's become an entirely different entity. The dumber it gets, the more affiliates they'll acquire. Why it's still called Red Eye is beyond me...it's Midnight Trucking retardation all the way.

[11angeleyes11]

     Red Eye is being dumbed down for mass consumption. McIntyre's departure totally altered the show, it's become an entirely different entity. The dumber it gets, the more affiliates they'll acquire. Why it's still called Red Eye is beyond me...it's Midnight Trucking retardation all the way.

Agreed.  Doug McIntyre gave a sophisticated flair to all-night talk.  Now, it will be "Breaker, Breaker"  when they take open line calls, 10-4 when agreed, and the CB-radio will make a comeback.  Notice the sychronicity between CC-radio or C Craine radio and CB-radio.  George taught me that. 
It's the good ole redneck trucker manfolk and that thar radio station.

[slipstream]

Agreed.  Doug McIntyre gave a sophisticated flair to all-night talk.  Now, it will be "Breaker, Breaker"  when they take open line calls, 10-4 when agreed, and the CB-radio will make a comeback.  Notice the sychronicity between CC-radio or C Craine radio and CB-radio.  George taught me that. 
It's the good ole redneck trucker manfolk and that thar radio station.

   Yep, can only echo this post.  I was a regular listener of Doug's show.  It was the best late night show.  The replacements don't have the worst show I have ever heard, but I have asked myself, "I wonder what George is talking about tonight?", so it gets a little boring after a while. 

[Usagi]

Hrm.  I don't want Coast to die.  I can't listen to George Noory for more than 5 minutes before getting annoyed or more than 15 minutes before turning it off, but I still think that it's George that sucks, not Coast.  Maybe I'm naive, but I think the show is redeemable if it weren't for douchebag.  Okay, very naive, but still.

Coast should exist, but it doesn't need 9000 affiliates.  Maybe it would be good if the show contracted.  Maybe it could get back to its roots, cut the infomercial crap, return to a more spontaneous and mysterious feel, and above all get rid of George.  Fucker makes me feel like I have Tourette's when I think about him.  No expletive-laden sentence could possibly express how much I think he ruins the show.  I sure as hell am not going to listen to Trucker radio, though.

Blah.  I'm not even sure why I care any more.

p.s. - My thanks to those who post links to news about the lost affiliates.

[The General]

Hrm.  I don't want Coast to die.  I can't listen to George Noory for more than 5 minutes before getting annoyed or more than 15 minutes before turning it off, but I still think that it's George that sucks, not Coast.  Maybe I'm naive, but I think the show is redeemable if it weren't for douchebag.  Okay, very naive, but still.

Actually, I agree with this.  The host IS the show.  If George went away and  someone interesting took his place, all of a sudden Coast wouldn't suck anymore!  Someone with a likeable, but edgy and dark personality and a great radio voice could kill it!  Listening to George is like listening to someone's semi-senile Grandpa try to explain to a group of children where babies come from.  In church.  I don't know.  It's hours and hours of unnecessary awkwardness.

[b_dubb]

my guess is that george will last right up until he starts interviewing guests who write books about homeopathic ass-wiping. and then you'll see a change.  probably.

[coaster]

I agree. All coast needs is a new host. He has shown time and time again that he doesnt give a shit about the show. He proves it every night by being dull and not engaging the guests. Noory needs to listen to the fans of the show, and make the necessary changes to fix it. But instead he labels anyone who criticizes the show as "haters" and forgets about it. Coast will continue to go downhill with Noory at the mic.

[punkinpie]

homeopathic ass-wiping

I just had visions of powdering with Turmeric

[Scully]

     Red Eye Coast to Coast AM is being dumbed down for mass consumption. McIntyre's Bell's departure totally altered the show, it's become an entirely different entity. The dumber it gets, the more affiliates they'll acquire. Why it's still called Red Eye Coast to Coast AM is beyond me...it's Midnight Trucking Simple George retardation all the way.

There I fixed it for you, Eddie.     


(History repeats itself, and there are no coincidences.)

[CoastCanuck]

Hrm.  I don't want Coast to die. 

Neither do I.  IMO,  I'm suspcious that it's not strictly because of Noory's performance that some radio stations are dropping C2C.  Topics such as natural health alternatives, the state of the economy and climate are probably raising eyebrows amongst the establishment.  I enjoy hearing guests on C2C present the other side of what main street media pushes, and deciding for myself what I believe.  Recently,  Pat Buchanan and Judge Napolatano were dropped from their shows, I wonder if this is  part of the movement.  Even with Noory fumbling his hosting duties, at least guests still have a platform to bring forth information on C2C, and I'd hate to see this eliminated.    my 2 cents.