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analog kid:
--- Quote from: Frys Girl on April 25, 2012, 07:13:33 AM ---not all people who believe in God are Creationists >:(
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As the argument goes, if you believe in the divinity of Jesus, a belief in creationism of some sort is required, as Jesus was sent to answer for the original sin of Adam and Eve, and without them, there is no need for Jesus. That's the argument, anyway.
slipstream:
--- Quote from: Ben Shockley on May 01, 2012, 06:22:47 PM ---I don't know if you call yourself a "Republican," MV, but if you do, then the answer is "yes." If the 2012 Republican primary season has shown us anything, it's that anyone claiming to be a "Republican" MUST toe the line of extreme ideology or be politically purged, plain and simple. Ideological purity and (pardon the term) homogeneity über alles. And a major plank of that ideology is elaborate, strident ostracism of persons of non-hetero sexual orientation.
That Dick Cheney remains a Republican in good standing while occasionally advocating for his lesbian daughter --or hell, while even having a lesbian daughter-- only speaks for the tremendous cred he's built up with the Republican base through his having a part in the murder of countless thousands around the world.
What's a total mystery to me is how any gay or lesbian person in his/her right mind can claim to be a member of that party.
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This goes a long with being a democrat and being pro life. I've met a few democrats that were pro life and scared to admit it to their party peers.
slipstream:
--- Quote from: analog kid on May 01, 2012, 07:28:49 PM ---As the argument goes, if you believe in the divinity of Jesus, a belief in creationism of some sort is required, as Jesus was sent to answer for the original sin of Adam and Eve, and without them, there is no need for Jesus. That's the argument, anyway.
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No, it is not required. One can believe in God/Jesus and believe in evolution at the same time.
P.S. I love how the anti-war left takes a powder while there is a Democrat in the White House.
Ben Shockley:
--- Quote from: Frys Girl on April 25, 2012, 07:13:33 AM ---...not all people who believe in God are Creationists >:(
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--- Quote from: analog kid on May 01, 2012, 07:28:49 PM ---As the argument goes, if you believe in the divinity of Jesus, a belief in creationism of some sort is required, as Jesus was sent to answer for the original sin of Adam and Eve, and without them, there is no need for Jesus. That's the argument, anyway.
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But, Analog, not everyone who believes in "(a) God" is a Christian; i.e., a believer in "the divinity of Jesus." Lots of non-Christian "believers in (a) God."
A better counter to that line about "all believers ≠ Creationists" is: WHY NOT? If you can stretch your mind to believe in a "supreme deity" (or any "deity" at all), why not go ahead and assert that he/it created everything? Why wouldn't or why didn't he/it?
Why believe in --or be-- "a God" who didn't / couldn't create everything?
Ben Shockley:
--- Quote from: slipstream on May 01, 2012, 08:00:23 PM ---P.S. I love how the anti-war left takes a powder while there is a Democrat in the White House.
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This lefty cuts Obama no special slack. I think today's commitment to 10 more years in Afghanistan sucks.
But to paraphrase comic John Fugelsang, there's no point in blaming the national war hangover on the guy making breakfast. P.S. - Can ya dig metaphor?
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