Topic: Is George Noory an Alcoholic?

[Gassy Man]

I've worked with a few functioning alcoholics, and George Noory's behavior is very similar if not the textbook example . . . superficially friendly or nice but then prone to making hurtful or stupid comments without thinking; non sequiturs and a general lack of detail or focus in conversations and social interactions; slurred speech, frequent mispronunciations, odd phrasing, questionable wording; and a conscious refusal to accept that there's a problem.  Usually such a person is enabled by others in the workplace and in particular if they are a supervisor . . .

I've seen photos of him at conventions and he also has the rumpled, heavy-lidded appearance of someone who fits.  He might have gotten himself some help early when he got the Coast to Coast job but now that he's got a contract and the show is doing okay he is hitting the bottle regularly.

A lot of people in his profession are alcoholics.

Anybody else get this sense?  He might be less the doofus and more the diseased.       

[Eddie Coyle]

   That would the rarest thing...

   Something to like about him! And I say this as someone who hasn't had a drink in 1786 days. But I'm still buzzed from all I drank between 11-31 years of age.

[Gassy Man]

   That would the rarest thing...

   Something to like about him! And I say this as someone who hasn't had a drink in 1786 days. But I'm still buzzed from all I drank between 11-31 years of age.

Freaky, Eddie -- but what do you think?  Does his behavior fit the bill?

BTW, The Friends of Eddie Coyle, as I'm sure you'd agree, is an excellent movie.

[Eddie Coyle]

Freaky, Eddie -- but what do you think?  Does his behavior fit the bill?

BTW, The Friends of Eddie Coyle, as I'm sure you'd agree, is an excellent movie.

     I'd say yes. I was at my absolute worst in boozing when I worked nights/overnights. You find yourself drinking at 6am, because of the upside down schedule you have. I'd be at the bar at 10am and whenever it was pointed out to me how early it was to be hitting it hard, they'd get a "I work nights,you motherfucker" response from me. Noory works(so to speak) hours that are quite conducive to being a drunk. When I worked 7:30p-4a at the Post Office, there were TONS of us, who were off the rails alcoholics, who drank to excess seven days a week. We were a preponderance of the workforce. Barflies left and right.

    His detached manner in conversations could be attributed to being under the influence. Drunks repeat stories over and over again and don't have actual substantive conversations because they're not fully engaged.

      He also gives the impression that he's frequently at restaurants before getting to the studio. Gee, no booze imbibing happening there.

     And yep, Coyle is one of my favorite movies. Filmed in and around my neighborhood(three years before my mother shit me out)

[Vatar]

Eddie worked at a post office ... this is all starting to come together.

[Gassy Man]

     I'd say yes. I was at my absolute worst in boozing when I worked nights/overnights. You find yourself drinking at 6am, because of the upside down schedule you have. I'd be at the bar at 10am and whenever it was pointed out to me how early it was to be hitting it hard, they'd get a "I work nights,you motherfucker" response from me. Noory works(so to speak) hours that are quite conducive to being a drunk. When I worked 7:30p-4a at the Post Office, there were TONS of us, who were off the rails alcoholics, who drank to excess seven days a week. We were a preponderance of the workforce. Barflies left and right.

    His detached manner in conversations could be attributed to being under the influence. Drunks repeat stories over and over again and don't have actual substantive conversations because they're not fully engaged.

      He also gives the impression that he's frequently at restaurants before getting to the studio. Gee, no booze imbibing happening there.

     And yep, Coyle is one of my favorite movies. Filmed in and around my neighborhood(three years before my mother shit me out)

I generally teach at night and have a lot of students who fit the same pattern because of their schedule.  My old boss was probably an alcoholic as was one of the deans (who would throw a party every year and could drink just about everyone under the table except maybe me).  The chair and the dean were very similar in age to Noory and were mostly bored with their administrative jobs but made too good of money to just quit so they were riding it out till retirement.

I think Noory may well be an alcoholic.

[Vatar]

This could explain how articulate he is during daytime interviews for ancient aliens.

[Gassy Man]

This could explain how articulate he is during daytime interviews for ancient aliens.

I'm not sure anything could properly explain that, Vatar.

[Eddie Coyle]

Eddie worked at a post office ... this is all starting to come together.

   From 20 to 28, the bastards had me. I'd love to hold them responsible for my mental state, but I was already non compos mentis before I took the exam for that nuthouse.

[Eddie Coyle]

I generally teach at night and have a lot of students who fit the same pattern because of their schedule.  My old boss was probably an alcoholic as was one of the deans (who would throw a party every year and could drink just about everyone under the table except maybe me).  The chair and the dean were very similar in age to Noory and were mostly bored with their administrative jobs but made too good of money to just quit so they were riding it out till retirement.

I think Noory may well be an alcoholic.

    Working "odd hours" does seem to put people on track to rather insalubrious habits. Insomnia,alcoholism,bad dietary habits, socially it's disruptive as well. Noory is certainly at high risk for being a drunk.

    But if you're young and relatively batshit crazy...working those hours is fuckin' great , I loved all of those "good times wasted having good times". Getting kicked out of strip clubs,stumbling around Chinatown at 4am looking for "cold tea", waking up in doorways, pissing on subway platforms waiting for the train. That was the ordinary Sunday.
     

[Gassy Man]

I did the 8 a.m. to 5 p.m. office thing for about seven years before becoming an academic, and I've almost exclusively taught in the late afternoons or at night since.  Something about my Circadian Rhythm makes me want to stay up late and sleep in and has since I was a teen, and I'm productive the most after dark.  And, as you say, the more interesting things happen then!  The worst side effect is, as you also say, diet, but I'm working on that.

[Eddie Coyle]

I did the 8 a.m. to 5 p.m. office thing for about seven years before becoming an academic, and I've almost exclusively taught in the late afternoons or at night since.  Something about my Circadian Rhythm makes me want to stay up late and sleep in and has since I was a teen, and I'm productive the most after dark.  And, as you say, the more interesting things happen then!  The worst side effect is, as you also say, diet, but I'm working on that.

   I'm a lifelong insomniac, so I've never known normal sleeping habits. I consider it a blessing and curse, because I got to read/watch/listen to far more than peers did as a kid. I went to night school in my late 20's and was 100x more effective than I was as a daytime student in my youth.

      Dietary disaster-eating fast food,living off vending machines and drinking like a fish. I took the physical for the Post Office at 20 years old and was 6'1" 183lbs. Within 3 years I was 238lbs(but not any taller) and by the time I was 26-285lbs. Those bad habits gave me an extra 100lbs in 5 years. I'm come from a family of skinny Micks who look like the potato famine still effects them.So my added girth really stood out.

[Gassy Man]

I definitely hear you about the dietary thing . . . when I've been in relationships, I've done okay, but the in-between bachelor periods were just like you describe.  One thing I started to do is buy more fresh fruit and use the crock pot to make something healthy I could keep for a few days.  Processed food really takes a toll on a guy.

[Paper*Boy]

... I've seen photos of him at conventions and he also has the rumpled, heavy-lidded appearance of someone who fits...     

[Gassy Man]

Gak!  Is it me, by the way, or does it look like he's wearing grayish eye shadow in that photo?

[KnyeGuy]

Interesting hypothesis Gassyman. Someone else on this forum was theorizing that it may be early signs of dementia.

[Vatar]

Other theories include rectal probing, and chem trail poisoning.

[Agent : Orange]

I did the 8 a.m. to 5 p.m. office thing for about seven years before becoming an academic, and I've almost exclusively taught in the late afternoons or at night since.  Something about my Circadian Rhythm makes me want to stay up late and sleep in and has since I was a teen, and I'm productive the most after dark.  And, as you say, the more interesting things happen then!  The worst side effect is, as you also say, diet, but I'm working on that.

   I'm a lifelong insomniac, so I've never known normal sleeping habits. I consider it a blessing and curse, because I got to read/watch/listen to far more than peers did as a kid. I went to night school in my late 20's and was 100x more effective than I was as a daytime student in my youth.

I sympathize with both of you guys. I'm an academic and an insomniac, and I often find myself working odd hours. For the past five years I have been able to effectively work at home, so I would go into the office two or three times a week and the rest of the time I'm in front of a computer screen at home. This has advantages and disadvantages in itself since I can largely make my own schedule. I have found that while my productivity has gone up in general, the downside is loss of regimen. Meals come whenever I get hungry, days and nights blend into one another and I find myself falling out of touch with the people around me. Working weird hours really does take a toll on your personal life and I can understand how that sense of disconnection can lead to alcoholism.
Plus, there's nothing more depressing than heading out of town for a weekend and cracking open a laptop when you get there.

My plan going forward is to transition to a 9 - 5 schedule with evenings and weekends my own. Whether or not this ends up working remains to be seen.

[Vatar]

Agent Orange if you do your best work at night you may want to think of a career as a male escort.

[Frys Girl]

I'm going to have to disagree with all of you on this. There's no way George Noory is an alcoholic. He slurs his speech because he sucks. He is lazy. He is uncertain and shaky about what he speaks of. He is a weak host. He might get tipsy at a conference if they are comping his drinks or he can charge Premiere Radio. ("just say it's dessert!")


Also, George Noory is a health fanatic. This is a guy who takes freaking turmeric tablets. He wants to preserve whatever he has. Ew. Longevity is his goal. Recall that he is supporting his children and grandchildren through this gig.

[WOTR]

I sympathize with both of you guys. I'm an academic and an insomniac, and I often find myself working odd hours. For the past five years I have been able to effectively work at home, so I would go into the office two or three times a week and the rest of the time I'm in front of a computer screen at home. This has advantages and disadvantages in itself since I can largely make my own schedule. I have found that while my productivity has gone up in general, the downside is loss of regimen. Meals come whenever I get hungry, days and nights blend into one another and I find myself falling out of touch with the people around me. Working weird hours really does take a toll on your personal life and I can understand how that sense of disconnection can lead to alcoholism.
Plus, there's nothing more depressing than heading out of town for a weekend and cracking open a laptop when you get there.

My plan going forward is to transition to a 9 - 5 schedule with evenings and weekends my own. Whether or not this ends up working remains to be seen.

It's kind of funny- that is my plan for the new years (actually, I'm going to try closer to 10 -6 as mornings really suck.)  I've been an insomniac my whole life- from a few months onward according to my mother.  It's almost 7 and I think it is now time for bed.

I really don't know how I'll ever change, but I am going to try this year.  I can do some work from home- but I am going to try not to.  My hours have slowly slipped from around noon to 8 or 9 in the evening.  Aside from self-discipline, is there a plan to transition to "regular hours" for you?

A few years ago I started using a slow cooker so that a healthier supper was always waiting after realizing that I had not eaten a single meal at home in over two months.  All take-out and convenience store food.  The problem was that eventually everything that comes out of a slow cooker tastes the same.  I will agree with everyone- the hours take a toll on the social life and it is hard to keep on track with nutrition.  If nothing else, canned beans and some frozen soups are always on hand.  I still eat out far too much, but at least I use the toaster and oven occasionally now.

[Agent : Orange]

I really don't know how I'll ever change, but I am going to try this year.  I can do some work from home- but I am going to try not to.  My hours have slowly slipped from around noon to 8 or 9 in the evening.  Aside from self-discipline, is there a plan to transition to "regular hours" for you?

Aside from changing career paths and becoming a male escort per Vatar's suggestion, I really have no idea.

To start I'm going to have to stay up for a while (maybe a few days) and fall asleep at a decent hour to get myself on a normal sleeping schedule. I find that I can fall into holding patterns that last for a week or so, but a single late weekend completely fucks up the subsequent week. So The first few weekends of responsible scheduling are going to be extremely dull.

Perhaps a more realistic plan is to just put on Coast during the week and use Noory's natural sedative effect to drift off regularly at midnight...

[Vatar]

Perhaps a more realistic plan is to just put on Coast during the week and use Noory's natural sedative effect to drift off regularly at midnight...

That works for a little while, but eventually the sedative effect is replaced with a feeling of nausea.

[Agent : Orange]

That works for a little while, but eventually the sedative effect is replaced with a feeling of nausea.

I'll make sure to lie on my side so I don't choke on my own vomit.

[Paper*Boy]

I'm going to have to disagree with all of you on this. There's no way George Noory is an alcoholic. He slurs his speech because he sucks. He is lazy. He is uncertain and shaky about what he speaks of. He is a weak host...

I'm not sure alcoholism is incompatable with sucking and hoping tumeric holds the answer.
 
If I was as publicly lousy at my job and felt trapped and hated it as much as George, I'd try to self-medicate.
 
 

[b_dubb]

Also, George Noory is a health fanatic. This is a guy who takes freaking turmeric tablets. He wants to preserve whatever he has. Ew. Longevity is his goal. Recall that he is supporting his children and grandchildren through this gig.

Nick Nolte used to do extreme supplements. I could see someone doing supplements, etc to offset the effects of drink/etc in their mind. This might be a form of denial

[General Johnson Jameson]

Is George Noory an Alcoholic?

I don't know if he's on the booze or not, but I have long suspected heroin use, a beastiality/gay sex fetish, and Earl Grey tea.

[Frys Girl]

It's definitely a possibility that he's a drunk, but I don't want to use it as a pass for his suckage.

[MV]

as i see things, it all comes down to the simple fact that he's not a particularly intelligent man.

[From Somewhere Out There]

   That would the rarest thing...

   Something to like about him! And I say this as someone who hasn't had a drink in 1786 days. But I'm still buzzed from all I drank between 11-31 years of age.

Good on you Eddie and congrats. I took an eleven year chip today. I concur with you about still being buzzed. Twenty two years of heavy Jack drinking straight up destroyed half of my brain.

Back on topic, Noron is probably not an alkie; he is just fat and ugly.