Topic: If Art Returns, Should He Just Host a Competing Show?

[Gassy Man]

Maybe Coast to Coast is just too tired to get up, and maybe it would be better for Art to just host a better, competing show.  There might be contractual issues -- he might have signed a clause, for instance, that says he can't do that -- but if it's possible, I might rather see Art do a show free of the inertia of what has been Coast to Coast for years.

[onan]

Maybe Coast to Coast is just too tired to get up, and maybe it would be better for Art to just host a better, competing show.  There might be contractual issues -- he might have signed a clause, for instance, that says he can't do that -- but if it's possible, I might rather see Art do a show free of the inertia of what has been Coast to Coast for years.

I wouldn't want Art back on c2c. Screw premrad. Art has enough listener collateral to do what he wants.

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[Frys Girl]

When George said Art quit, I remember him saying "he's winding down folks." I think he wanted to kill any hope of Art returning to radio. Asshole. If Art does come back, it will not be a competing show. It'll be something worth listening to. Coast to Coast AM is not competing with anything except hamsters running in a wheel.

[Eddie Coyle]

     Who's going to syndicate him? Art would probably have to take a shit deal from a shitty network. 66 year olds with his dubious history don't have much bargaining power.

     What Art had circa 1996 was ideal...but in 2011, paranormal-oriented media has been dumbed down, oversaturated and increasingly banal. 9/11 made people more interested in illegal aliens than aliens...and talk radio reflects that.

[Camper]

     Who's going to syndicate him? Art would probably have to take a shit deal from a shitty network. 66 year olds with his dubious history don't have much bargaining power.

     What Art had circa 1996 was ideal...but in 2011, paranormal-oriented media has been dumbed down, oversaturated and increasingly banal. 9/11 made people more interested in illegal aliens than aliens...and talk radio reflects that.

I think Art could get a good deal on satellite radio and have access to a large audience. I hope he doesn't because I cancelled my subscription to XM a couple years ago and don't really want to go back.

[Flaxen Hegemony]

The worst outcome for Art would be for some sort of big return to fall flat or be ignored.  That's why I'm guessing any return will be on a very small scale at first, so he can gauge remaining interest and get a sense of the dynamics at play.  If he hears crickets (and I don't think he would), he can return to the shadows without making a fuss, as if nothing ever happened.

If it were on a small scale, Art's background in amateur radio would probably allow him to manage the entire thing in-house, right down to the signal.  Speaking of which, are any of you HAM radio operators?  It would be interesting to hear if he dropped any hints to his fellow hobbyists, as he did on Facebook. 

[Michael Vandeven]

here's my opinion:


http://www.coastgab.com/index.php/topic,2136.msg33570.html#msg33570

[Flaxen Hegemony]

here's my opinion:


http://www.coastgab.com/index.php/topic,2136.msg33570.html#msg33570

If you're right, then going it alone with a weak signal he jury-rigged himself might be the only possibility if he were planning some sort of return.  He could then call the show "Fence to Fence AM". 

Let's face it, "stay tuned" could mean anything from George Noory being exiled to Howland Island, to Art's family buying a new pet hippo.

[Eddie Coyle]

 
    MV stated it quite eloquently, and I agree. The ship has sailed.

    Flaxen, I also concur that if there were to be comeback it would be small-scale and if response was muted(likely scenario) he'd retreat back into retirement.

     Comebacks are always so...anticlimactic. Michael Jordan in a Wizards uniform should be the universally recognized symbol of "I should have stayed home"

[Paper*Boy]

here's my opinion:


http://www.coastgab.com/index.php/topic,2136.msg33570.html#msg33570

Let me preface this by sayng I know nothing about the business end of Radio.
 
Ok, your post all makes perfect sense, but.... buuut... quality is just so hard to find.  Surely there are people on the lookout for programming, I know the TV stations sure are.
 
Art Bell brings listeners, content, probably brings sponsors. 
 
I'd say the only thing holding him back is the time commitment required to do a quality show, something George never worries about.  And whether he really wants to start it up again.
 
Due to time commitment, and maybe the issues MV brought up, I see Art as more of a weekend guy, at least at the beginning, maybe on satellite, maybe a podcast, maybe even on TV, certainly not on Dumb to Dumb, er, Coast to Coast..

[Morgus]

I see Art as more of a weekend guy, at least at the beginning, maybe on satellite, maybe a podcast, maybe even on TV, certainly not on Dumb to Dumb, er, Coast to Coast..

unfortunately Art has said many times in the past he would never want to use those alternative venues at all.
he is an old fashioned over-the-air radio guy, its in his blood from ham radio. nothing else for him, it has to be free broadcast radio AM/FM only. never the pay-only satellite and non-realtime podcast stuff.

[Tara]

Art and Whitley Streiber collaborated on "The Coming Global Superstorm."  Maybe they'll do some thing similar on radio.  Whitley did take over Dreamland.  I assume Art and Whitley are still friends.  I'm just throwing this out.   Whatever Art decides to do, assuming he's back on some sort of airwaves, I'll be happy. 

[kf5iwe]

When George said Art quit, I remember him saying "he's winding down folks." I think he wanted to kill any hope of Art returning to radio. Asshole. If Art does come back, it will not be a competing show. It'll be something worth listening to. Coast to Coast AM is not competing with anything except hamsters running in a wheel.

That is an insult to hamsters. As a souther gentleman I challenge you to a duel to defend the honor of hamsters everywhere. And I dont even like hamsters. I like CATS.

[kf5iwe]

I am a general class ham. I have been listening on 75 meters, from 3.600 to 3.999 khz friday and saturday night. Nothing heard yet. But I will keep listening every night all night. I dont need a girlfriend or a life or anything. I can just sit here and listen to the radio forever Might be easier if I had a proper antenna.

[Frys Girl]

I think Art should takeover the throne, even if it is for a month, just to shut down George Noory. Call it Operation Ajax if you like. Whatever. Get the CIA involved. This is really bad conditions. All hands on deck!

[Flaxen Hegemony]

I am a general class ham. I have been listening on 75 meters, from 3.600 to 3.999 khz friday and saturday night. Nothing heard yet. But I will keep listening every night all night. I dont need a girlfriend or a life or anything. I can just sit here and listen to the radio forever Might be easier if I had a proper antenna.

Excellent.  Glad to hear there's at least one person on here who can catch Art on the amateur bands. 

And I envy your pursuit of the hobby.  In the corner of my basement, there is a pile of amateur gear (surely outdated by now), and my extent of using it was hooking up a mic and power supply, pushing the little "ON" button and saying "Hello?" for three hours, then getting a call from the FCC saying "Cut it the fuck out, mister."

[M Knight]

I think Art should takeover the throne, even if it is for a month, just to shut down George Noory. Call it Operation Ajax if you like. Whatever. Get the CIA involved. This is really bad conditions. All hands on deck!

The presupposition of this thread is that Art would need to compete with Numb Nut.  If Art had a national show again C2C would have to fold or hire Art back to survive.

[Flaxen Hegemony]

The presupposition of this thread is that Art would need to compete with Numb Nut.  If Art had a national show again C2C would have to fold or hire Art back to survive.

Man, that would certainly be awesome.  Bell vs. Noory would be a rout, but give Noory the additional advantage of incumbency, an existing audience, advertisers, and (at least nominal) corporate backing?  Sad to say, but I think the Nooron without Neurons would wipe the floor with Art.  I know that may be sacrilege around here, but it has nothing to do with quality (Art beats him big time), and everything to do with logistics. 

That's why I'm almost sure that if anything happens, Art is going to dip his toe in the shallow end of the pool.  If Art does have greater aspirations (we can hope!), this may cause Noory to show his hand if he's at all worried.  I know that a few people in here said they detected concern or anxiety in George's voice lately, and attributed it to rumblings on the Bell front.  I don't listen to Noory regularly, but didn't sense any anxiety the times I did. 

I'd be curious if anyone could share sound bites or links to George sounding like he's hearing footsteps.  Not that I disbelieve anyone, just curious how George would sound when anxious, as it establishes a baseline for future interpretation.

 

[M Knight]

Man, that would certainly be awesome.  Bell vs. Noory would be a rout, but give Noory the additional advantage of incumbency, an existing audience, advertisers, and (at least nominal) corporate backing?  Sad to say, but I think the Nooron without Neurons would wipe the floor with Art.  I know that may be sacrilege around here, but it has nothing to do with quality (Art beats him big time), and everything to do with logistics. 

That's why I'm almost sure that if anything happens, Art is going to dip his toe in the shallow end of the pool.  If Art does have greater aspirations (we can hope!), this may cause Noory to show his hand if he's at all worried.  I know that a few people in here said they detected concern or anxiety in George's voice lately, and attributed it to rumblings on the Bell front.  I don't listen to Noory regularly, but didn't sense any anxiety the times I did. 

I'd be curious if anyone could share sound bites or links to George sounding like he's hearing footsteps.  Not that I disbelieve anyone, just curious how George would sound when anxious, as it establishes a baseline for future interpretation.

 

Midnight in the desert is Noory's greatest nightmare, next to clowns.

Midnight in the Desert

[Evil Twin Of Zen]

That is an insult to hamsters. As a souther gentleman I challenge you to a duel to defend the honor of hamsters everywhere. And I dont even like hamsters. I like CATS.

Hamster Fight

   

[General Johnson Jameson]

here's my opinion:


http://www.coastgab.com/index.php/topic,2136.msg33570.html#msg33570

I can respect that argument, but I can also counter it. "Who would want Art"?
I don't think Art wants anyone wanting/owning Art. I highly doubt he would take any contract Preimere offered, if it would even happen, which is debateable.
I think Art is done with "corporate" radio. I do feel however, perhaps he has something in the works as Flaxen Hegemony has stated. In the arena of amatuer radio we're talking. On top of being simple and something he has done his whole life, he would have no bosses to deal with. The broadcast (of whatever format) could be streamed over the web. It would really be a simple thing to do and it would be doing it in a venue that Art loves and participates in.
I do agree with you though..Art isn't coming back to corporate radio.

[kf5iwe]

Noory has been mumbleing for 6 months that he feels something bad is coming. Turns out he may be right. ART BELL is back in the USA. Poor George, he might have to come up with quality programing now. No more mailing it in.
 Can't broadcast on ham radio. The rules require 2 way communication. Everyone seems to forget we have several worldwide shortwave broadcasters in the USA. Art could go on one station and cover most of the country. At the same time he could stream the program over the internet. Old time radio and modern technology at the same time. Free to listen to shortwave.

[Gassy Man]

here's my opinion:


http://www.coastgab.com/index.php/topic,2136.msg33570.html#msg33570

It makes sense, but I hope that Art sees a window of opportunity and takes it.  I think broadcasting is in his blood and always will be, and he wants to go back to the public airwaves.  He just burns out from time to time.  If he does come back, the only issue will be how it will happen.  A fresh start with a competing show might just be the thing to revitalize his interests.

[Frys Girl]

Ok obviously, the only way for Art to come back is for Noory to be gone....i will never suggest crimes or violence against another, but there are no laws against alien abduction. George Noory should get abducted by aliens. MAKE IT friggin happen! Where is Whitley Strieber? Put an implant in George's ass and be done with it.

[M Knight]

Put an implant in George's ass and be done with it.

That might explain a lot of his odd behavior.  I think when he fell into the mud puddle it was really a portal to an alien dimension where the first thing they do is implant a signalling device into your rectum.  The operation took days, but due to hyper-dimensional physics it appeared to us that he just jumped back up and out of the puddle as though nothing happened.

[Lovely Bones]

Ok obviously, the only way for Art to come back is for Noory to be gone....i will never suggest crimes or violence against another, but there are no laws against alien abduction. George Noory should get abducted by aliens. MAKE IT friggin happen! Where is Whitley Strieber? Put an implant in George's ass and be done with it.

I was drinking coffee, Frys Girl. 

Now I have a splattered monitor.  You crack me up. 

[Frys Girl]

I was drinking coffee, Frys Girl. 

Now I have a splattered monitor.  You crack me up.

Then make sure you don't watch this at 3:25

Ancient Aliens 2012 part 2 HD

[Flaxen Hegemony]

Then make sure you don't watch this at 3:25

Ancient Aliens 2012 part 2 HD

See, this is the unfortunate outcome of George freebasing Tsoukalos' tanning solution.

"THEY built them, the people built them, or somebody built them..."

Thanks George.  No, really, I mean it.  Who else knows this?

"... hundreds and hundreds of years ago, perhaps maybe thousands of years ago."

I like how he adds the phrase about thousands as if it should fill us with wonder.  Next thing you know, he will suggest that hundreds and hundreds actually add up to thousands.

"They've got spiders and monkeys and just different pictures that could be signs of... "hello up there! here we are! its something."

Spiders AND monkeys?  GTFO!  Now, the SETI@home people are going to finally leave their basements and spray paint monkeys and spiders on the nearest abandoned warehouse roof to say "hello up there! here we are!". SETI research also suggests that the giraffe is the intergalactic symbol for "take this mustache-laden, mop-headed douche, please."

[General Johnson Jameson]

Put an implant in George's ass and be done with it.

Let me be clear...It is not known whether or not Noory wears an Ass Purse from Peenman Enterprises.
The Ass Purse: a long, hollow, tubular device inserted rectally, that one may fill with gold, stock certificates, cash, jewels..whatever valuables you would not want a yard full of roadwarriors robbing from you during the End Times.

[kf5iwe]

Perhaps GN can go on the road. He could look for evidence of the other 7 states.