Topic: George Noory: Monomaniac and Jew Hater

[Caruthers612]

     For some time, I have wished to find a forum for discussing a side of the Noormonster wherein my comments would be considered and taken seriously. I hope this is it.
     From the moment he took over the reigns of C2Cam, George overtly destroyed the show Art had created over many years, and re-made it in his own image. This is fair enough, I suppose, since the show was now his, not Art's. However, it is the changes Noory made that stuck out like a sore thumb. The new roster of regulars included/includes every Bible thumping, trailer park livin', white trash conspiracy theorist Jew hater with enough teeth left to talk on a telephone.
     For starters, am I the only one who's noticed how many of Noory's guests defend and excuse the Nazis and Hitler, or re-write this more ghastly episode of human history, portraying it as some fascinating excursion into occultism, instead of what it was? Just the other day, after a guest began speaking about what a rough childhood Hitler had had, Noory asked--presumably with a straight face: "Do you think Hitler was genuinely evil?" Yes, he actually asked this question.
     And Alex Jones?! Don't get me started. For those who are not quite clear yet as to who and what this bottom-feeder is all about, try and stomach a few minutes of Jones' own show, in which he will, for example, regurgitate the age-old lie that the Germans knew nothing about what was being done to the Jews all over their country, and thought the cattle cars carrying Jews off to the death camps were "just taking them to be deloused."
     Without delivering a dissertation I'll just say this. Jew hatred has once again become popular since 9/11. The examples are everywhere. It could be that Noory simply wants to tap into what's hip in order to make his show successful, however much of an amoral scumbag that makes him. Who knows. All I know is that Ian Punnett should be the full-time host and George Noory should be doing lot pick-up at Ralph's.

[Michael Vandeven]

hi, mordred.  glad you joined.  and i'm particularly glad you made this post.

in 2008, it seems like "good old fashioned" jew-hating has once again become chic.  jews, or "the world's punching bag" as i like to call them, are under assault from multiple angles.  who are the people pointing the cannons at them?  the answer, if delivered with the clarity and thoroughness deserved, would take me far longer than i wish to spend on this post.  suffice it to say, among the culprits, are second-rate radio shows and the 911 conspiracy douches who populate them.

antisemitism is the bedrock upon which many of today's conspiracy conversations are rested.  from the afore mentioned piece of dog shit who calls himself alex jones, to amiri baraka (former new jersey poet laureate who alleged israeli involvement in 911 in a worthless poem the state paid him to write), it's clear that the hostilities people have held toward the world's biggest scapegoat for centuries are alive and well today.  the irony is that much of this hostility is tacitly endorsed in our institutions of higher learning.  in previous years, america's liberal colleges were the institutions in which jews could find commonality and ideological congruity.  today, you can find antisemitism proudly on display with a bravado previously unmatched.  click here for a great example of the problem: http://www.uclaprofs.com/profs/makdisi.html

find your average 911 conspiracy site, read for a mere 5 minutes, and you'll begin to see that the yellow brick road in almost all cases leads to the "evil" jews.  art bell was keenly aware of this, and he refused to allow guests on his show who would take the discussion in this predictable, uninteresting direction.  i'm sure art was continually nagged by lightweights who wanted him to have alex jones on the show.  note that he never did.  wonder why?  think for 3 seconds and you'll get it.

so what happened?  well, when the lightweights who couldn't get art to have jones on the show managed to get a lightweight of their own as host of coast to coast am, the rest was history.  today, noory and jones have apparently forged a deep friendship, the glue of which is their mutual willingness to forego rationality and their desire to write a new world history simply because "it's more fun."  i don't know what is in noory's heart, as i am not acquainted with him.  thus, i must forge my opinions on the man by examining the content of his broadcasts and those he chooses as guests.  i think his willingness to provide exposure to those who perpetuate an antisemitic perspective on the world forces me to conclude george is CERTAINLY no member of the simon wiesenthal center.

[Caruthers612]

Michael,

     Well, that was as delightful as it was unexpected. I was expecting people to tell me to keep my paranoia to myself or generally rag on me--life in a post-literate age has soured me. ;-)
     Thank you for your articulate and thoughtful reply. You hit the mark again and again--and thanks for the info about that New Jersey "poet", I hadn't heard about that one. Our tax dollars at work.
     You took the words out of my mouth when you said that Jew hating has once again become chic. This is literally the phrase that went through my mind when, only moments after 9/11, our old friends the French were marching in the streets carrying placards comparing Ariel Sharon to Hitler, or when a Jewish member of the Norwegian parliament was physically escorted from the building when he showed up for the day's session wearing a Star of David pin on his lapel. All of a sudden it hit me: The hatred of Jews made manifest during the Second World War never went away, it was simply that in the wake of the Holocaust, the world's Jew haters were too afraid or too embarassed to make their feelings known too publicly. Now, however, sixty years had passed; three generations; and suddenly, to the delight of people everywhere, it was acceptable--even hip--to hate Jews again. To blame them for every woe. To shout it from the rooftops, or parade it in the streets as they did in Paris and Marseilles.
      You also make a very important point, and one that I've often noted, Michael, when you say that every conspiracy theory, I don't care what it seems to have to do with at first, eventually comes back to...The Jews. Maybe Alex Jones should pay us royalties--he'd never sell a single DVD without us.
      Anyway, Michael, it was a pleasure reading what you wrote, and as a guy who's been seeking new friends, particularly like-minded people of education and intelligence, I would be pleased to correspond with you, if you're interested. Feel free to drop me a line.

Best Wishes,

M

[Michael Vandeven]

...or when a Jewish member of the Norwegian parliament was physically escorted from the building when he showed up for the day's session wearing a Star of David pin on his lapel.

this is something i was subconsciously thinking about while i typed, but failed to mention.  europe is REPLETE with antisemitism. just as it was 65 years ago.

i always get angry when i hear people like john kerry (i know i'm going to piss off 50% of this board's membership) prattling on and on about how the usa should turn to europe for "guidance" in the course of making our foreign policy decisions or that we should be more like them in other ways.  am i to believe that the people who brought us hitler, stalin, mussolini, world war 1, world war 2, the rise of the soviet empire and the holocaust ALL IN JUST THE LAST CENTURY are the people to whom we should turn for advice?  they are the educated and enlightened among us?  they have a track record we should be enamored with?  why am i speaking in questions?  could it be a literary crutch?

europe is today in the same situation it has always been:  too busy worrying about maintaining its socialist empire to consider paying for an army.  at every turn, these people have taken the wrong historical turn, and when the dust settled, it was always the united states who came to clean up their mess long enough for them to continue looking down their noses at us over a fine glass of bordeaux.

i guess i'm off on a bit of an angry tangent here relative to the initial topic at hand, but maybe i'm not.  the same people who would tell us how much like europe we NEED to be are the same people who in tyrannical fashion indoctrinate their students with historical pap the likes of which causes them to question the obvious truths of history like the existence of the holocaust.  maybe their ideological relationship to the institutions and traditions of europe is more symbiotic than previously suspected.

[Max]

firstly I want to say welcome to the forum Mordred478, to find out why, this forum is here, we got a post for that, whereas Michael explains his reasons for this site.

I speak for most here, when I say they can not stand george noory and how he runs the show and how he talks to the guests. This zippy one liners that make me shake my head and go WTF.

I agree with the posts here about George and Alex jones, to me alex is a true spreader of hate. he goes on that we should hate our government, and its their fault for our lot in lives.. and that their to blame for this and that... What alex will never say, is your responsible for your own life.. your the one that has to get that degree or certification... not the government, their not going to do shit for your life, its all you. and people would rather blame others then take responsibility for their own life. </end alex jones rant>

There are about a dozen coast to coast am related forums out there, I know I am a member of many of them or know of them... but they will not let you speak your mind as such as this site here, they will delete your posts, edit them, and go as far as banning you... WHY, because they want to get props and mentioned on Coast to Coast as a cool group of people...

We don't get props and we dont want them, unless george were to do an interview with michael as to why this site exists....lol... I would stay up just to listen to that short 5-10 minute interview...  it would end with michael being hung up on.... like george does to many guests..

George noory and mike segal are on the same level as to how this show is going...

but the difference, is art owned part of the program, now he has no control or say.

[EvB]

     Well, that was as delightful as it was unexpected. I was expecting people to tell me to keep my paranoia to myself or generally rag on me--life in a post-literate age has soured me. ;-)
     

I'm personally glad you wrote this. I'm painfully aware of the rise of antisemitism and, even more difficult to tease out I think, the Weimarsation of America where the rich get richer and the poor and what's left of the middle class get pitted against each other.  I had NOT - however, noticed it on C2C - don't listen closely enough I guess.  It's often my "background noise" as I go about other things.

What you are pointing out is NOT paranoia.  It's all too real.  Please do NOT keep it to yourself. 

This is something from YouTube that scares the crap out of me.  In all fairness to the person who originally put it on YouTube - he INTENDED viewers to see the awful irony of it. 

A quick overview of the context for anyone who may not be aware:

1) The song is from the play Cabaret, which is set in Weinmar Germany. It's done a bit differently in the film -(the visuals are mostly what's different) bu the message in both cases is the same:  People are easy to manipulate when they feel hard done by.  This song is an example of that (nationalistic) manipulation and sentimentality.

2) The creator of this video took the song, and set a slide show of post 9/11 images to it - applying it to America. 

Here Tiz:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aApL1iN5XMs

OH!  We now have ads on this page for meeting Jewish Singles and learning Hebrew  (FYI to Mordred, it's a bit of a running gag here to see what our topics do to the Google ads)

[Pirate King Atomsk]

Considering the mainstream media almost shits it's pants at the thought of even speaking "against the grain" on America's Israeli support or WW2, I don't think it's really anything to get up in arms about. I mean, the Jewish perspective is taken care of in almost every other aspect of radio/tv media. Screaming "antisemitism" or "jew hater" every time someone doesn't follow status quo on the subject is rather tiring.

But, hey, at least we've established a theocratic racist state for the "world's punching bags" to go to if "antisemitism" gets too bad for them here...which it never will because as I stated above, they'll ruin anyone in the media who even suggests we lessen our support of Israel. George should be more careful with Alex on the show...but as long as he sticks to the term 'Zionist" he should be okay, right? Haha.

[Camazotz Automat]

How unfortunate and embarrassing for me that shortly before the creation of the Noory the Jew Hater topic I happened to upload a decidedly Naziesque appearing robot as my avatar.  Nazi-Gort.  Can you believe that?  Just my luck.  I?m like Albert Einstein misplacing his wristwatch or something.  Did all of you down in the front row understand that joke?  Einstein misplacing time?  Sometimes they let the special people sit down front.  I'm not serious.  You know I kid.

I really REALLY apologize about the avatar.  You can get a refund up front, but it WILL disqualify you from the buffet we?re having after the show.   That might not be a bad thing for some of you out there with the sore feet.   Tell you what.  Instead of noticing any similarities between my robot friend here and Spielberg?s Storm Troopers, think of him as a giant mechanical penis leftover from the auction at Neverland Ranch.  Right?  Right?  How?s that for imagery?

We don?t know FOR SURE Michael Jackson has ever had sexual contact - I could just stop here, couldn't I? -  We don't KNOW FOR SURE Michael Jackson has ever had sexual contact with a child, but we DO KNOW he was worshipping a giant mechanical penis in the privacy of his own playground. 

Draw your own conclusions.  I?ll wipe my forehead with a napkin here and pretend I don?t know what you?re thinking.

No, I kid, I kid.  No, really.  Jews and Germans are like two kids fighting in a sandbox.  Meanwhile the Asian kid is stealing their tricycles.   What?s up with that?  I really don?t know.  But I guess I should, because I?ve lost three fucking tricycles.

I tell ya, I?ve met George Noory.  One time.  It was at the Brown Derby.  He was outside posing as a blind man selling pencils.  His white cane said WHITE POWER CANE on the side of it there.  You know I?m kidding.  But he did seem to flinch a little when I asked him if he had actually noticed he was standing outside next to a large brown structure and hadn?t gone inside yet.

Why ya selling pencils? I asked.   He said it was to raise money for all the starving children he has adopted.

How many have you adopted? I asked.  He said he wasn?t sure but he would check with Lex and did I want to buy a fucking pencil or not?   Who does he think he is?

I bought one and shoved it up his?

Alex Jones?  The name rings a bell.  Rings a bell.  I got it.  He was the one with the bright orange bullhorn who crashed the Neverland Auction.  He somehow got it confused with Bohemian Grove and kept screaming, ?Where?s the big owl?  Where?s the big owl?  We know it?s here!  Where the hell is Walter Cronkite hiding? Is he in the owl?  Is he inside the fucking owl?? 

He said the same thing, over and over goddamn it.  Through that goddamn bullhorn.   He was scaring the bejesus outta the innocent kids who were at the auction hoping to get their little hands on some carnival equipment or an organ grinder monkey that was trained to steal your billfold for the King of Pop.

It?s like crack to those kids.  Carnival rides, props, cotton fucking candy.

Imagine kids playing outside, later on, and what they would say.  Look, I have a new Tonka truck.   Another kid says, I have a GI Joe doll?. This other kid, a kid from the auction says, look at my blue fur covered animatronic elephant I got from Michael Jackson?s private collection.  You pull its trunk and it tries to get you in bed and take your peanuts.

No.  No.  I?m sorry.  I joke like that.  That?s why you paid to come here.  What, you want knock knock jokes instead?  Okay.

Knock Knock

(who?s there)

Jew Hater

(Jew Hater who?)

I don?t know, but I?m feeling an awful lot like Mel Gibson.

See?  I got you on that.  A lot of you laughed on that.  Except this black woman over here isn?t sure what the hell to do.  She wants to leave but wants that buffet.  And she can?t get her mind off the blue elephant trunk bit and is afraid someone can tell what she's thinking about.  It?s okay, honey, we can?t tell what you?re thinking.  We can?t tell.  It?s okay.  But it?s something along the lines of ?Once you go blue, nothing else will do.?  Am I right?  By the way, you only loved Michael Jackson when he was a kid, right?  Before the aliens got him?  That's when we all loved Michael Jackson.  Remember "Rockin' Robin?" But now...

(shaking head)

Now do we have any Native Americans in the audience?  I need to stir something up between you and the white people over at this other table here.

Remember that television sign-off signal used on many stations?  Back when TV actually had the NERVE to shut OFF at night?  That test pattern, a lot of them, had that Indian Chief head on it.  Why?  Was that some kind of mercy fuck - pardon my French, ladies, but don?t pardon the French - some kind of mercy fuck payment for stealing your land?  Here, you wannum be on Tee Vee?  Test pattern my ass.  It was more like gloating.  Look!  Look!  We took your land AND we put a chief on the tube to help us focus the transmission quality - Geronimo at the battle of the last Moir? pattern.

Imagine the hutzpah required to BROADCAST that test pattern to people living on the reservations.  Every night.  Two AM.  Click.  YOU LOST WE WON.  HERE?S AN INDIAN HEAD FOR COMPENSATION.

It?s like a goddamn vending machine version of the uncle that won?t shut the hell up.

Jesus, I don?t think I could have watched TV if it were me.  Probably would have organized a local war party and raided the television station.  Stolen all the white men?s wives and dragged them back to the reservation and made them watch that damned test pattern as I dug out a canoe, so to speak.

Imagine the designers of the test pattern.  Sitting around, drawing on a cocktail napkin, like this sweaty one I just used to wipe my head.  ?No? no, we still have a blank area at the top?. We need something there.  How about? oh geez, how about a goddamn Indian head, Charley?  Is that not perfect? Are you with me on this?  This will show we care about the earlier inhabitants of America.?

It could have been worse.  No, no.  It could.  It really could.  Instead of an Indian Chief head, it could have been George Noory?s head, right there, every night, at two fucking o?clock.  How are youuuuuuuuuuuuu?

No.  I kid.  I kid a lot.

A lot.

Okay, okay, someone guess my ethnicity.  Do the best you can.  What?  Yes you, there, what did you say?

I'm a blue fur covered animatronic elephant?  What the hell?  I can't believe you just said that. To me.  Just said that to me.

Pull my trunk, you wise ass punk.

Addendum: Well, obviously, I've changed my avatar since first penning the above masterpiece.  But here's how it looked:

You see, you see, I realized something.  I realized I wasn't getting laid.  Who is going to want to have sex with a giant Nazi robotic penis with a laser shooting out of if?  Huh?  Nobody, that's who.  Put your hand down, Mr. Jackson.

So I thought I would pick Dean.  How can you go wrong with the Dino?  How can you?  All the broads want to get laid by that silver tongued bastard.  Am I right, ladies?  A show of hands.  Put your hand down, Mr. Jackson.  I'm not telling you again.  I'll show you who is bad you freak of the supernatural.  Christ, if you head butted me your nose would slice my face open faster than a Catholic hitting the halibut on Friday. 

Hey, that reminds me.  I heard they're recalling all the old Jackson 5 albums that are now on CD.... they're recalling them and changing the band name to The Jackson 4, Peter Pan 1.

I kid.

I kid.

[Art is the Best]

Zotz, you are crazy. Do you mail order coffee to people? Gimme.