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Morgus

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Re: You're All Just Haters
« Reply #60 on: July 10, 2011, 04:40:33 PM »
Arts, and Coast to Coasts in general, best shows were the open lines shows, and the talks with people
such as Mad Man Markham, Bugs and the bigfoot ( i know its BS, but still, it was great entertainment),
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Very true. But those days are long gone unfortunately, since those stories were only possible with true UNSCREENED open lines. Even some later regular guests were discovered first just as a caller during open lines back in the 90s like Stan Deyo. He never wrote books which is how they seem to get guests nowadays.

Not possible with the multi-level super-screened lines that Noory has now. Plus the host will cutoff a good story caller if he ever managed to get thru. Even a modern day Mel, MadMan or Bugs wouldn't get more than a few minutes to tell his story and only a comment like "fascinating" or "unbelieveable" and move on never to hear of them again.  :P


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« Reply #61 on: July 10, 2011, 06:24:08 PM »
Very true. But those days are long gone unfortunately, since those stories were only possible with true UNSCREENED open lines. Even some later regular guests were discovered first just as a caller during open lines back in the 90s like Stan Deyo. He never wrote books which is how they seem to get guests nowadays.

Not possible with the multi-level super-screened lines that Noory has now. Plus the host will cutoff a good story caller if he ever managed to get thru. Even a modern day Mel, MadMan or Bugs wouldn't get more than a few minutes to tell his story and only a comment like "fascinating" or "unbelieveable" and move on never to hear of them again.  :P
Your never going to see a caller get more than 5 minutes or so of air time with a company
like Clear Channel at the helm. Cool stuff like that died with independent radio. I miss the days
of rock radio DJs being able to play random songs or album cuts, something very rare in this day and
age. Its not Noory doing these things, its the powers that be at Clear Channel.
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Re: You're All Just Haters
« Reply #62 on: July 11, 2011, 12:15:45 AM »
AnnaGrammy,
First one does not interest me much, thats not saying it wont interest others.
Second one, been done a million times. Art and George have both had similar shows, one comes to
mind, back in the AB days they had a guy ( may have been one of the authors of some of the Star Trek
books) about how the technology in star trek is now coming a reality.

Arts, and Coast to Coasts in general, best shows were the open lines shows, and the talks with people
such as Mad Man Markham, Bugs and the bigfoot ( i know its BS, but still, it was great entertainment),
Mels Hole etc. And thats what people forget, and seem to not realize, Art thought of a good deal of
this stuff as nothing more than entertainment. Once it turns into a money making scheme, and not
just a form of good entertainment, thats when it got lost.
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Now that you mention it, livingdead, Art created Mel's Hole, Art's Parts, etc.  He created the whole "fascination with the Vatican"-- he created the entertainment and guests and callers were the raw material for his talent.  Now we have a sort of two-dimensional version.  Like the circus only there are no costumes, no searchlights, no barkers, no acrobats or dancers, no magicians and no sideshow.  Just a train with some seedy guys leading around a bunch of animals in a field.   Not a circus without the props and aura. 

George Noory is the killer of "aura of mystery."  George Knapp doesn't really do that either--he's a good reporter and a good interviewer, but he doesn't have the twinkle in the eye.

Anagrammy

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Re: You're All Just Haters
« Reply #63 on: July 11, 2011, 01:07:35 AM »
George Noory is the killer of "aura of mystery."  George Knapp doesn't really do that either--he's a good reporter and a good interviewer, but he doesn't have the twinkle in the eye.

Anagrammy

I agree that Bell is one of a kind, and he can't and won't be replaced. However, Knapp radiates his own kind of mystery on Coast. The fact that he walked the walk, before he talked the talk, brings real food to the speculative table (hee). He conjures his own kind of aural magic. 

livingdead70

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Re: You're All Just Haters
« Reply #64 on: July 11, 2011, 01:35:51 AM »
Now that you mention it, livingdead, Art created Mel's Hole, Art's Parts, etc.  He created the whole "fascination with the Vatican"-- he created the entertainment and guests and callers were the raw material for his talent.  Now we have a sort of two-dimensional version.  Like the circus only there are no costumes, no searchlights, no barkers, no acrobats or dancers, no magicians and no sideshow.  Just a train with some seedy guys leading around a bunch of animals in a field.   Not a circus without the props and aura. 

George Noory is the killer of "aura of mystery."  George Knapp doesn't really do that either--he's a good reporter and a good interviewer, but he doesn't have the twinkle in the eye.

Anagrammy
Agreed, but Noory was not hired to be "art bell". He was hired to be the host of a radio show.
George is there because they pay him to be. Art was there because he created it.
Knapp comes from television.. a whole other ball game. Which is likely why he
landed the job with Clear Channel, he is used to a structured environment.
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