Author Topic: Bin Laden is Dead (Read 4465 times)

The General · « **Reply #120 on:** May 04, 2011, 10:03:37 PM »

Quote from: Fly By Night on May 04, 2011, 09:53:37 PM

I agree, stick to a story. Hell, if they do need to cover something up, such as terrified children, at least let the CIA cook up a cover story and stick to it. Not that I want a fake story, but at least we would not look incompetent and inconsistent to our enemies.

Or to our own citizens.

anagrammy · « **Reply #121 on:** May 05, 2011, 12:17:52 AM »

They dump the body in the ocean (they don't want anyone to have it)

They have pictures but they won't release them (they don't want anyone to see them)

They have witnesses but they can't talk (they don't want anyone telling what they saw)

There are official stories that keep changing.

Damn. Sounds like a UFO crash. SOP for American Military

Anagrammy

Michael Vandeven · « **Reply #122 on:** May 05, 2011, 12:39:25 AM »

regarding the (i think) feigned "geronimo" outrage:

it's yet another in a series of ongoing, shortsighted efforts to protect native american heritage and honor by eliminating any and all signs from the modern american experience of their ever having existed. wow. that sounds like a great plan for historical preservation.

in 50 years: "geroni-who?"

i'm sick and tired of this racial rat race/circle jerk of self described victims all scrambling to see who can feel the most offended.

oh, wait... i'm not supposed to comment on this because i'm a white male. my bad. pretend it didn't happen.

EvB · « **Reply #123 on:** May 05, 2011, 03:48:48 PM »

The General · « **Reply #124 on:** May 05, 2011, 03:50:35 PM »

Now reports say that only one person at the compound was armed.
There was no firefight...

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_BIN_LADEN?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2011-05-05-09-23-57

Eddie Coyle · « **Reply #125 on:** May 05, 2011, 04:45:11 PM »

The White House statement should be:

"We killed him. Termination With Extreme Prejudice. If you don't like it, who cares. Any nation complaining shall no longer receive foreign aid. Good night"

The General · « **Reply #126 on:** May 05, 2011, 05:02:13 PM »

Quote from: Eddie Coyle on May 05, 2011, 04:45:11 PM

The White House statement should be:

"We killed him. Termination With Extreme Prejudice. If you don't like it, who cares. Any nation complaining shall no longer receive foreign aid. Good night"

God damn I wish we had a president that would say that.

Eddie Coyle · « **Reply #127 on:** May 05, 2011, 05:10:12 PM »

Quote from: The General on May 05, 2011, 05:02:13 PM

God damn I wish we had a president that would say that.

As do I...but by their very nature,politicians can't speak this way. Maybe 100 years ago, but not in our(and our parents/grandarents) lifetimes. A guy like Nixon THOUGHT IT, but never said it.

EvB · « **Reply #128 on:** May 05, 2011, 07:05:01 PM »

gotta love The Onion

Do you think it was angels? · « **Reply #129 on:** May 05, 2011, 07:20:44 PM »

And what was with the hour-long delay before Obama's speech?

Bumbling Amateurs!

The General · « **Reply #130 on:** May 05, 2011, 07:23:25 PM »

Quote from: Do you think it was angels? on May 05, 2011, 07:20:44 PM

And what was with the hour-long delay before Obama's speech?

Bumbling Amateurs!

Yeah that was weird. They kept putting it off for 10 more minutes. About 5 times.
But that's just Gov't for ya. Or were you being sarcastic?

Fly By Night · « **Reply #131 on:** May 05, 2011, 09:41:03 PM »

I say this tongue in cheek, but I feel the need to create a conspiracy out of a conspiracy.
So, they shoot OBL, take a picture and then later send him seaworthy . Then Obama and his crew look like knuckleheads changing stories and such about what happened and refuse to show the picture. Obviously the Alex Jones types are loving this because it's fodder for their fire. Well what does the media like to call the Alex Jones type crowd? FAR RIGHT WINGERS. Perhaps Obama and the crew WANT conspiracy theories to ride out of this mission knowing that insane people will come up with insane theories and the insane media will report these insane theories and insanely call the theorists right wingers thereby making the right look looney to independent voters. I need an Advil.

Do you think it was angels? · « **Reply #132 on:** May 06, 2011, 12:04:38 AM »

No sarcasm. Delaying the press conference was ridiculous and embarrassing and made them look like chumps.

I do suspect that Obama is playing rope-a-dope with the far right nut jobs. Withholding his birth certificate for two years, and then releasing a version with extra PDF layers, just to tweak the conspiracy theorists!

onan · « **Reply #133 on:** May 06, 2011, 09:36:05 AM »

Not my words but gave me some things to think about:

By Tim Molloy & Dylan Stableford

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America can keep a secret.
For all of the news media's talk about the scattershot distribution of information in the digital age -- WikiLeaks leaks, Twitter overshares, breaches of privacy on phones, Google, Facebook and PlayStation -- President Obama's stunning announcement of the killing of Osama bin Laden on Sunday proves the U.S. can still protect information when it counts.
According to the White House's account, the government kept its plot to capture or kill Bin Laden a secret as it pursued one of his trusted couriers over four years and two administrations.
(Above, White House officials watch the situation unfold live Sunday/White House photo by Pete Souza.)
It tracked the elusive Al Qaeda leader to a compound almost entirely off the grid in Abbottabad, Pakistan -- no telephones, no Internet -- and Navy Seals struck in a mission so surgically precise that even a man who live-tweeted the assault didn't realize what was happening.
NBC's David Gregory -- who often pushes for more disclosure from the White House as the host of "Meet the Press" -- called bin Laden's death "a reminder of how little we sometimes know about what’s going on inside the government."
Everything worked for U.S. operatives in keeping the government's suspicions from the media.
President Obama displayed a perfect poker face throughout -- even on the eve of the operation, when he met with victims of the Southern storms, played golf, then slayed Donald Trump at the White House Correspondents Dinner in Washington on Saturday night, where, by the way, 2,600 members of the media were gathered to toast him.
As comedian Seth Meyers joked about bin Laden's whereabouts ("Did you know every day from 4 to 5 he hosts a show on C-SPAN?") the President laughed, knowing that U.S. forces were as close as they had ever been to killing the Al Qaeda leader.
The killing of bin Laden was born of old-fashioned spycraft, carried out in real time.
When the Navy Seals struck Bin Laden's compound in Abbottabad, Obama and more than a dozen members of his national security team were gathered in the White House Situation Room, able to the watch events unfold live, according to White House counter-terrorism adviser John Brennan.
That's a dozen more people than could've kept a juicy secret in a media company, that's for sure.
The mission also reveals U.S. intelligence is far more advanced than many Americans imagined. A CNN/Opinion Research Corporation poll in September 2010 found that 67 percent of Americans believed it was unlikely the mastermind of the Sept. 11 attacks would ever be captured or killed -- a stunning vote of no confidence in the U.S.'s ability to bring him to justice.

Silent · « **Reply #134 on:** May 10, 2011, 01:50:16 PM »

Did anyone else see this?

http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/asiapcf/05/10/pakistan.us.military.fight/index.html?hpt=C1

I'm all for disclosure but this might be a case where keeping your mouth shut is the best thing. I think the way the operation was conducted tells more about relations between the US and Pakistan than anything else but why antagonize aggression through the media?

Usagi · « **Reply #135 on:** May 10, 2011, 01:58:35 PM »

"America can keep a secret."

You have no idea the glimmer of hope this gives me. I've been really bummed the last few years because I was becoming convinced that the world was more lame, open, mundane, incompetent, and dissolved of mystery than I would ever like. I'm still not convinced that that's not the case, but maybe, just maybe, there are a few big secrets there after all.

Probably not.

anagrammy · « **Reply #136 on:** May 10, 2011, 02:08:44 PM »

Usagi - Do not give up hope Little Mermaid. Remember there are still alien bodies and huge saucers being kept SOMEWHERE....and, don't forget the big release of JFK photos and docs on the 50th anniversary of his death. And what was that stuff on the moon anyway?

There are still mysteries.

Anagrammy

aldousburbank · « **Reply #137 on:** May 10, 2011, 02:37:37 PM »

Quote from: anagrammy on May 10, 2011, 02:08:44 PM

And what was that stuff on the moon anyway?

Green cheese?

onan · « **Reply #138 on:** May 10, 2011, 02:43:07 PM »

http://www.hbo.com/real-time-with-bill-maher/episodes/index.html#/real-time-with-bill-maher/episodes/0/212-episode/video/new-rule-the-party-of-stinkin.html/eNrjcmbOUM-PSXHMS8ypLMlMDkhMT-VLzE3VLMtMSc2HiTrn55WkVpQw5zMXsjGyMXIyMrJJJ5aW5BfkJFbalhSVpgIAVj4XOA

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"that's how it went down, I just watched it on MSNBC."

Treading Water · « **Reply #139 on:** May 10, 2011, 06:33:55 PM »

Quote from: anagrammy on May 10, 2011, 02:08:44 PM

And what was that stuff on the moon anyway?

Anagrammy

Fluids from someone named Whitley?

RealCool Daddio · « **Reply #140 on:** May 10, 2011, 06:48:40 PM »

Quote from: Treading Water on May 10, 2011, 06:33:55 PM

Fluids from someone named Whitley?

Hey buddy, that's my schtick!

Usagi · « **Reply #141 on:** May 10, 2011, 06:52:53 PM »

Quote from: Treading Water on May 10, 2011, 06:33:55 PM

Fluids from someone named Whitley?

It's been a good five years since I've been an active member (or much of a member at all) of any online forum. It's crap like this I missed.

Thanks, Coastgab.

Pirate King Atomsk · « **Reply #142 on:** May 11, 2011, 12:38:32 AM »

I've decided to go as his missing death photograph for this Halloween.

onan · « **Reply #143 on:** May 11, 2011, 01:55:40 PM »

For those of you that need proof of Osama taking a dirt nap:

http://www.ghostseance.com/ghost-of-osama-bin-laden.html

aldousburbank · « **Reply #144 on:** May 11, 2011, 02:08:18 PM »

I don't think OBL has much time for seance interviews right now, what, with the 72 or however many new nubile and virginal devotees and all.

Pirate King Atomsk · « **Reply #145 on:** May 11, 2011, 03:59:38 PM »

Quote from: onan on May 11, 2011, 01:55:40 PM

For those of you that need proof of Osama taking a dirt nap:

http://www.ghostseance.com/ghost-of-osama-bin-laden.html

Well that settles it for me!

Quote from: aldousburbank on May 11, 2011, 02:08:18 PM

I don't think OBL has much time for seance interviews right now, what, with the 72 or however many new nubile and virginal devotees and all.

Coasted2astop · « **Reply #146 on:** May 11, 2011, 04:10:42 PM »

Quote from: Pirate King Atomsk on May 11, 2011, 12:38:32 AM

I've decided to go as his missing death photograph for this Halloween.

Trendy, topical costumes are the best...

I've been tossing around a "Long Form Silver" design but can't find a properly fitting codpiece.

Eddie Coyle · « **Reply #147 on:** May 13, 2011, 08:12:59 PM »

This new bullshit about "Bin Laden wanted to bomb small cities and towns", "he wanted to ice Obama..and his grandmother" topped off with the "we found Osama's porn stash" has really made this whole fucking affair even more lurid. I can't wait until we find Gaddafi's corpse..in women's clothes of course! I'm sure there will be plenty of "dirt" on the deceased Libyan.

Terrorism "threats" have been exaggerated endlessly and exploited by these fear-mongering frauds(gov't,media,business) for 40 years and the "Osama's porn" thing reminds me of the vile campaign by the Israelis accusing Arafat of being a homosexual pedophile who died of AIDS. It's juvenile nonsense, graceless winning at best, more likely a typical cynical approach toward the general population of "these idiots will believe anything-strike up the band and play the Star Spangled Banner...and fucking Freebird for good measure".

aldousburbank · « **Reply #148 on:** May 13, 2011, 08:33:39 PM »

Quote from: Eddie Coyle on May 13, 2011, 08:12:59 PM

This new bullshit about "Bin Laden wanted to bomb small cities and towns", "he wanted to ice Obama..and his grandmother" topped off with the "we found Osama's porn stash" has really made this whole fucking affair even more lurid. I can't wait until we find Gaddafi's corpse..in women's clothes of course! I'm sure there will be plenty of "dirt" on the deceased Libyan.

Terrorism "threats" have been exaggerated endlessly and exploited by these fear-mongering frauds(gov't,media,business) for 40 years and the "Osama's porn" thing reminds me of the vile campaign by the Israelis accusing Arafat of being a homosexual pedophile who died of AIDS. It's juvenile nonsense, graceless winning at best, more likely a typical cynical approach toward the general population of "these idiots will believe anything-strike up the band and play the Star Spangled Banner...and fucking Freebird for good measure".