Author Topic: NOORY INCOMPETENCE EXAMPLES (Read 5391 times)

anagrammy · « **on:** March 20, 2011, 02:11:37 PM »

This is a practical workspace for those of us gathering documentation to show Coast-to-Coast AM management and affiliates examples supporting our request that George Noory be replaced as the weekday host of the program (see my post today on GNS-The Definitive Compendium). We diehard Art Bell fans have heard wind of some changes for Art. Could be personal, could be career or both. With Noory being very defensive about his "talents" recently, it seems possible there is pressure on him from above due to ratings slippage. We'd like to think they are concerned about the nosedive in quality, but probably the bean counters are talking sponsor complaints due to lack of listenership in the important demographic of the young college-educated.

Please use this format as I will be copying/pasting:

Date-Speaker-Quote

o/a (on or about) 3/15/11, Michio Kaku. Guest said XXXX and Noory asked, "Could it possibly have been a portal?"

Each quote is not hilarious or obnoxious by itself, but the result will look like this:

"Something's going on" - 115 repetitions
"Could it be dimensional" - 90 repetitions
"Could it be a portal" - 72 repetitions
"Could it be an angel" - 32 repetitions including two negative guest responses (Hoagland 3/12/10 - "George, you know better than that..." Ronald England 4/15/09 "I just told you it was a mechanical device, a machine, that landed! How could that be an angel?"

An attached list will contain the details so that Premier can look these redundancies and gaffe's up themselves if they want. Please feel free to offer suggestions for additions or changes, or a different approach if you have ideas. This is a collaborative effort.

Anagrammy
PS - these above are real examples but the names aren't accurate 'cause I'm just giving examples.

JustOneFix · « **Reply #1 on:** March 20, 2011, 02:22:05 PM »

I'm game! Altho I usually fall asleep around 3a, I can get the first couple hours and the related screwups noted......

M. Knight · « **Reply #2 on:** March 20, 2011, 03:50:13 PM »

Well, I suggest that we establish categories first. This might help convey what the definition of incompetence is, in reference to George Noory. You've identified one, repetitiveness. I'll list a few below, but I think we should continue to identify categories (throughout the process) and then populate particular instances under the categories.

Repetitiveness (filler comments)
Inattentive to guests (long pauses, no substantive questions)
Unprepared for the show (knows little or nothing about the subject matter)
Unprofessional reading skills (especially during the news review at the beginning of the show)
Inconsistent interviews (left-field questions)

Just a start.

aldousburbank · « **Reply #3 on:** March 20, 2011, 04:02:10 PM »

From the George really really sucks thread:

Quote from: JustOneFix on March 20, 2011, 12:01:21 PM

The only problem I see with this is that these episodes would have to be released in series of Boxed Sets titled "The Suckage of Snoory Vol. 1" and continuing to Vol. 1,409.

It'd have to be free as I'm not sure there's many of us that would pay for it!

Actually you'd have to pay me to review the material for compilation- and consider the potential negative health consequences. I mean this is some highly toxic material, probably far outside the boundaries of EPA and OSHA work standards, not to mention Geneva Convention codes. I'm thinking the only way to proceed is for researchers to limit exposure to 15 to 30 minute segments, then a fresh volunteer can replace researcher #1, while researcher #1 takes in some loud white noise, followed by Mozart, followed by Rage Against The Machine, followed by Some Velvet Morning. You should be ok after that, by my estimates.

The compiled material should be kept under conditions normally reserved for Schedule I substances or radioactive materials. Should these audio files fall into the wrong hands, I wouldn't want to be held responsible for the eventual damage to conversational Engish which could ensue.

But I truly respect the dedicated individuals who may overcome their self-preservation instincts in order to isolate this hideous, dark, radio gnosis for the good of humanity. Or at least for a few yuks.

anagrammy · « **Reply #4 on:** March 20, 2011, 04:14:20 PM »

Quote from: Marc Knight on March 20, 2011, 03:50:13 PM

Well, I suggest that we establish categories first. This might help convey what the definition of incompetence is, in reference to George Noory. You've identified one, repetitiveness. I'll list a few below, but I think we should continue to identify categories (throughout the process) and then populate particular instances under the categories.

Repetitiveness (filler comments)
Inattentive to guests (long pauses, no substantive questions)
Unprepared for the show (knows little or nothing about the subject matter)
Unprofessional reading skills (especially during the news review at the beginning of the show)
Inconsistent interviews (left-field questions)
Just a start.

Excellent Idea - I've shortened and added a couple:

1. Repetitive (same non-substantive comments/questions for all)
2. Inattentive (to guest/caller)
3. Unprepared (doesn't know material, guest, hasn't read book)
4. Unprofessional (poor reading skills, incorrect word pronunciation or distortion, wrong name, etc.)
5. Uneducated (lack of high school level knowledge re: geography, literature, history, American culture)
6. Poor interview skills (left-field questions)
7. Negative Responses (from guests/callers/emails/chats)

Should we lump unprofessional and uneducated? The latter is part of the former since a "live" host has to have a certain minimal number of synapses firing and a database to draw from?

Anagrammy

aldousburbank · « **Reply #5 on:** March 20, 2011, 05:56:44 PM »

Quote from: anagrammy on March 20, 2011, 02:11:37 PM

Please use this format as I will be copying/pasting:

Date-Speaker-Quote

o/a (on or about) 3/15/11, Michio Kaku. Guest said XXXX and Noory asked, "Could it possibly have been a portal?"

Each quote is not hilarious or obnoxious by itself, but the result will look like this:

"Something's going on" - 115 repetitions
"Could it be dimensional" - 90 repetitions
"Could it be a portal" - 72 repetitions
"Could it be an angel" - 32 repetitions including two negative guest responses (Hoagland 3/12/10 - "George, you know better than that..." Ronald England 4/15/09 "I just told you it was a mechanical device, a machine, that landed! How could that be an angel?"

An attached list will contain the details so that Premier can look these redundancies and gaffe's up themselves if they want. Please feel free to offer suggestions for additions or changes, or a different approach if you have ideas. This is a collaborative effort.

In addition to the list of specific categories, I really like the idea of adding up all the phony, pre-loaded retorts (if they can be called such) per show. Remarkable, amazing, who knows, and crap of this nature could be quantified and tallied, per any particular lame program. What would really be disturbing would be to hear an audio synopsis of all this verbal corn that went down in a single show. Considering that George really only speaks for <1/2 of the program, it might well still add up to some several minutes of broadcast trainwreck.

Added Comment: This is really the dawning of the science of Suckology.

M. Knight · « **Reply #6 on:** March 20, 2011, 06:09:48 PM »

The big assumption predicated by this valiant effort by Anagrammy is that the suits at PremRad don't know he is incompetent. We're assuming this is going to be astonishing news to C2C management. I think they are, and have been, very aware of his innumerable foibles.

aldousburbank · « **Reply #7 on:** March 20, 2011, 06:20:01 PM »

Quote from: Marc Knight on March 20, 2011, 06:09:48 PM

The big assumption predicated by this valiant effort by Anagrammy is that the suits at PremRad don't know he is incompetent. We're assuming this is going to be astonishing news to C2C management. I think they are, and have been, very aware of his innumerable foibles.

Their reasoning being, why buy a new smart cow, when the dumb old one you have still gives milk?

aldousburbank · « **Reply #8 on:** March 20, 2011, 06:31:14 PM »

Anagrammy,

I suggest that we need a standardized Noory Mouth Fart (NMF) Form (word doc, cloud app?) that courageous researchers can make their notations on. Categories, with blank rank/files for various, unexpected comments, and screw ups. This will make monitoring broad/podcasts simpler. I personally volunteer my suckologist services, starting with one randomly selected program, for which I will tabulate NMF data points. Over.

HAL 9000 · « **Reply #9 on:** March 20, 2011, 11:21:29 PM »

Were I setting this up, I'd probably use an Excel spreadsheet, and have the first column be a "keyword" for the following Snooryism - that way, it could easily be sorted.

As I have reached a state of "Noorvana," i.e. a state in which Noory does not reach my eighth cranial nerve (vestibulocochlear), as negotiated and codified in the Geneva Conventions treaties for humanitarian treatment, I cannot directly participate with live broadcasts.

I can, however, if first given a dose of an appropriate benzodiazepine, sustain short recorded bursts of Snoory in auditory form. Recent studies have shown that the damage done by reading Snooryisms, can be counteracted by virtuoso performances of musical instruments or human voice/singing. The damage caused by exposure to Norons is measured in milliNors. While exposure to Norons is dangerous and cumulative, the cure is a 1:1 ratio of virtuoso performances for every milliNoron. One minute of Noron exposure gives you one milliNoron; therefore, for every C2C listened to with Snoory at the helm, one would have to listen to approximately 2 CD's worth of musical virtuosity.

Those who do not take the Rx, are destined to join the NightHawkZone, which apparently, and recently, disappeared into the ether.

anagrammy · « **Reply #10 on:** March 21, 2011, 12:11:26 AM »

Quote from: HAL 9000 on March 20, 2011, 11:21:29 PM

Were I setting this up, I'd probably use an Excel spreadsheet, and have the first column be a "keyword" for the following Snooryism - that way, it could easily be sorted.

As I have reached a state of "Noorvana," i.e. a state in which Noory does not reached my eighth cranial nerve (vestibulocochlear), as negotiated and codified in the Geneva Conventions treaties for humanitarian treatment, I cannot directly participate with live broadcasts.

I can, however, if first given a dose of an appropriate benzodiazepine, sustain short recorded bursts of Snoory in auditory form. Recent studies have shown that the damage done by reading Snooryisms, can be counteracted by virtuoso performances of musical instruments or human voice/singing. The damage caused by exposure to Norons is measured in milliNors. While exposure to Norons is dangerous and cumulative, the cure is a 1:1 ratio of virtuoso performances for every milliNoron. One minute of Noron exposure gives you one milliNoron; therefore, for every C2C listened to with Snoory at the helm, one would have to listen to approximately 2 CD's worth of musical virtuosity.

Those who do not take the Rx, are destined to join the NIghtHawkZone, which apparently, and recently, disappeared into the ether.

Hal, Hal, you are so glib.*

Clearly, the Nighthawkzone has been raptured and has joined Heaven's Gate in the starship behind the huge object behind (and slightly to the right of) the sun.

Regarding antidote for Noorysuck overdose, I recommend playing James Galway flute in the background while the ears are being subjected to bombardment. No clinical trials have been done; however, early antecdotal results appear promising, i.e., I have not been committed yet.

Carry on!

Anagrammy
*Tom Cruise to Matt Lauer on Good Morning America (of course he said "Matt, Matt")

anagrammy · « **Reply #11 on:** March 21, 2011, 12:21:49 AM »

Quote from: aldousburbank on March 20, 2011, 06:31:14 PM

Anagrammy,

I suggest that we need a standardized Noory Mouth Fart (NMF) Form (word doc, cloud app?) that courageous researchers can make their notations on. Categories, with blank rank/files for various, unexpected comments, and screw ups. This will make monitoring broad/podcasts simpler. I personally volunteer my suckologist services, starting with one randomly selected program, for which I will tabulate NMF data points. Over.

Perfect, Aldous. Let the suckology recording begin! I suggest we use numbers for the categories and make the category first, like Hal suggested, that way we can sort results. We can also upload a member's submitted log and run add-on program to eliminate duplicates.

For those who wonder why we are bothering, let me explain: Of course the management knows he sucks. They didn't get where they are by not knowing when a radio program is diving. But it is another thing entirely to have the legal standing to break a contract and fire someone. Lack of performance as demonstrated by falling ratings can be attributed by an incompetent host to something else. For example, "Everyone makes mistakes, look at Imus who said "nappy-headed hos," and he's still on the radio. Are you discriminating against me because I'm white? Old? Middle Eastern." Yeah. Can of worms there- lawsuit material. So what we are doing is providing solid evidence as submitted by listeners of his lack of performance. We suspect they have sponsor objections and are squabbling about blame placing, meanwhile, Noorylovers are up to bat each and every night simpering, "I love you, George, will you be wearing that salmon shirt again at the next UFO conference?"

We can sit back and make fun (nothing wrong with that), but there also comes a time for action when there is a glimmer of a possibility that we might help Art in his negotiations, if that's what's happening. Can't hurt and it's kinda fun. Come play or not, your choice, but we're in.

I'm going to do one too and we'll compare columns, Aldous.

Anagrammy

HAL 9000 · « **Reply #12 on:** March 21, 2011, 01:09:28 AM »

Quote from: anagrammy on March 21, 2011, 12:11:26 AM

Regarding antidote for Noorysuck overdose, I recommend playing James Galway flute in the background while the ears are being subjected to bombardment.

I actually still have some James Galway cassette tapes from the '80's back in the day when you had to pay for music

Being a trumpet guy, my current favorite virtuoso on any intrument is Sergei Nakariakov. He does things which I previously thought impossible

anagrammy · « **Reply #13 on:** March 21, 2011, 02:04:11 AM »

Quote from: HAL 9000 on March 21, 2011, 01:09:28 AM

I actually still have some James Galway cassette tapes from the '80's back in the day when you had to pay for music

Being a trumpet guy, my current favorite virtuoso on any intrument is Sergei Nakariakov. He does things which I previously thought impossible

I hear you on that one. I still have tapes and a player, but mostly use CDs. I'm iPod free and once had a man stop me on the street in downtown Berkeley and thank me for not being "wired." I told him I was trying to be present wherever I am. My grandson plays the trumpet--he's almost four years old. I'm gathering some music which actually has trumpet in the background. So far, Neil Diamond is the front runner. Have any other ideas, esp. classical? I'll have my daughter put a video on youtube. He's a riot! I played him a Fleetwood Mac CD, which was the first grownup music he heard while traveling--his mother plays nursery rhymes. He loved it so much he wrote his own trumpet song and named it Chickenwood Mac. And its successor, Turkeywood Mac.

Anagrammy

aldousburbank · « **Reply #14 on:** March 21, 2011, 08:38:43 AM »

Quote from: HAL 9000 on March 20, 2011, 11:21:29 PM

The damage caused by exposure to Norons is measured in milliNors. While exposure to Norons is dangerous and cumulative, the cure is a 1:1 ratio of virtuoso performances for every milliNoron.

Do we know the accepted safety levels of milliNorons, the amount that can be sustained without causing permanent harmness?

anagrammy · « **Reply #15 on:** March 22, 2011, 09:48:24 AM »

Quote from: aldousburbank on March 21, 2011, 08:38:43 AM

Do we know the accepted safety levels of milliNorons, the amount that can be sustained without causing permanent harmness?

Ha Ha. I don't know, Aldous, according to last night's guest, Jason Martel, this might be one of those areas of hushness.

Anagrammy

Lunger · « **Reply #16 on:** March 22, 2011, 11:30:54 AM »

How about mis-pronounced words?

I realize that this would encompass more teraflops then the Internet has to offer....so maybe it could be narrowed to foreign words ( Which would basically, again, be every foreign word attempted by Noory).

'Rodriguez', 'Martinez', and more reciently 'Daiichi' pop to mind.

I have been getting side-splitting laughs whenever that idiot Noory tries to pronounce "Rural" , but that is English
"WUrrrrllllll"
"Ruuuuuwwwwlllll"

Here's to the most un-professional man in the business!
CHEERS!

George Drooly · « **Reply #17 on:** March 22, 2011, 03:46:19 PM »

Any use or combo of "r" and "w" seems to baffle him, resulting in gibberish. A 60-minute recording of the various permutations of his most mispronounced word ("powerful") would, I think, be sufficient and damning amusement.

Also, perhaps, recordings of his slaughter of common names of well-known places and people.

HAL 9000 · « **Reply #18 on:** March 22, 2011, 10:29:32 PM »

Quote from: aldousburbank on March 21, 2011, 08:38:43 AM

Do we know the accepted safety levels of milliNorons, the amount that can be sustained without causing permanent harmness?

As you might imagine, measuring permanent harmness is currently a difficult task. We only have about 7-8 years of data, and since the symptoms of being exposed to an excess of milliNors mimics many other pathologies, including but not limited to dysphonia, dementia, blunt-force head trauma, parasitic nemotodes in the brain, etc., it is difficult to make a definitive differential diagnosis.

Additionally, since the demographics of exposure to milliNors has changed over the last few years, with spikes of over-exposure noted in such states as West Virginia and Arkansas for example - this has created quite a challenge for epidemiologists.

While we know that exposure to Norons can be counteracted with intense doses of culturally valuable and intelligent activities, I like to say that:

"The only 'safe' level of milliNors is total Noorvana (zero exposure) - any exposure is simply a matter of degree of risk."

anagrammy · « **Reply #19 on:** March 23, 2011, 01:01:30 PM »

Quote from: George Drooly on March 22, 2011, 03:46:19 PM

Any use or combo of "r" and "w" seems to baffle him, resulting in gibberish. A 60-minute recording of the various permutations of his most mispronounced word ("powerful") would, I think, be sufficient and damning amusement.

Also, perhaps, recordings of his slaughter of common names of well-known places and people.

Ah, yes, that ALONE... last night I heard a podcast of his interview yesterday:

110322 Weinstein, Loren. GN "Our guest tonight was involved with the internet from the very beginning, when it was still called 'Ar...Ara...Arapanet' (ARPANET).

How hard is it to pronounce ARPANET? Could he be dyslexic?

Anagrammy

M. Knight · « **Reply #20 on:** March 23, 2011, 01:04:19 PM »

Quote from: anagrammy on March 23, 2011, 01:01:30 PM

Ah, yes, that ALONE... last night I heard a podcast of his interview yesterday:

110322 Weinstein, Loren. GN "Our guest tonight was involved with the internet from the very beginning, when it was still called 'Ar...Ara...Arapanet' (ARPANET).

How hard is it to pronounce ARPANET? Could he be dyslexic?

Anagrammy

Yesterday he totally mangled "entrepreneur" so badly I cannot even transcribe it into English.

Lunger · « **Reply #21 on:** March 23, 2011, 03:26:26 PM »

Quote from: anagrammy on March 23, 2011, 01:01:30 PM

How hard is it to pronounce ARPANET? Could he be dyslexic?

Anagrammy

Have you noticed that Norry cannot get through one paragraph without screwing it up somehow?

Seriously, find one paragraph where he doesn't mis-pronounce a word, inject a Non Sequitur, or totally say something stupid.... someone please show me!

HAL 9000 · « **Reply #22 on:** March 24, 2011, 02:11:22 AM »

Quote from: Marc Knight on March 23, 2011, 01:04:19 PM

Yesterday he totally mangled "entrepreneur" so badly I cannot even transcribe it into English.

One interpretation I've seen is: "on-trip-in-manure"

George Drooly · « **Reply #23 on:** March 24, 2011, 04:00:51 AM »

This just occurred to me: has George ever had a speech therapist as a guest? HARHAR!

Or maybe he could have one of those backwards-voice guys on... maybe Georgie makes more sense played in reverse?

anagrammy · « **Reply #24 on:** March 27, 2011, 09:23:09 AM »

3/24/11 GN/John Rappaport.

Guest: In 1959 this guy came around to talk to me, he was 75 years old and that's what he did, he traveled and talked to people about the history of genetic engineering.

GN: So, is he still around? (Silence) I guess not...

(Painkillers?)

Anagrammy

James G. · « **Reply #25 on:** March 27, 2011, 03:22:17 PM »

I remember Mr. Noory once tell a guest that he had a speech impairment as a child. Then, speaking in a predominate lisp, Noory did an impression of what he sounded like as youth.

So perhaps he's had trouble with pronunciation since then. It's odd, though, that such who've have such speech impairments would go into broadcasting.

It seems to me at times that Noory can be absent minded. Sometimes, I've known bright people who are like that too. Or he's become too regimented in his role as a host. It's hard to tell.

But, I conclude, when you get high ratings, that few such trivialities matter. That's obviously the nature of the business.

James G. · « **Reply #26 on:** March 27, 2011, 03:26:17 PM »

Quote from: anagrammy on March 27, 2011, 09:23:09 AM

3/24/11 GN/John Rappaport.

Guest: In 1959 this guy came around to talk to me, he was 75 years old and that's what he did, he traveled and talked to people about the history of genetic engineering.

GN: So, is he still around? (Silence) I guess not...

(Painkillers?)

Anagrammy

In a word: LOL!
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I admit I'm not good at math, but my calculator shows that 2011 minus 1959 equals 52. So, if that man is still around, at age 75 in 1959, he'd he celebrating his 127th birthday this year!

That's a lot of candles on his birthday cake, all!

anagrammy · « **Reply #27 on:** March 27, 2011, 03:42:35 PM »

Quote from: James G. on March 27, 2011, 03:26:17 PM

In a word: LOL!
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I admit I'm not good at math, but my calculator shows that 2011 minus 1959 equals 52. So, if that man is still around, at age 75 in 1959, he'd he celebrating his 127th birthday this year!

That's a lot of candles on his birthday cake, all!

Thanks, James G., I should have added commentary at the bottom--I was tired I guess!

A

morphiaflow · « **Reply #28 on:** March 30, 2011, 05:48:20 PM »

Probably my favorite Noory incompetence of all time is his statement (unfortunately I can't give a date or even a year) that he had a hard time telling the difference between Crowley and LaVey. Ugh!

anagrammy · « **Reply #29 on:** March 31, 2011, 01:39:44 AM »

I have been noticing an increase in parenthetical self-references inserted awkwardly when a guest is speaking.

Since GN cannot make a cogent comment, he has taken to changing the subject to himself with marginally relevant anecdotes. For example, he'll interrupt a long spiel by the guest and say, "About three years ago I was in St. Louis and took a break from the eight hours a day I spend in show prep, and I walked out to look at the night sky and get some air. I saw a haze around the moon and thought of the biblical prophecy about the moon turning red, like the red algae you described. There's no such thing as coincidences!

This derails the momentum of the guest. My thought is that Noory is sensitive about not being part of a conversation, even if it's an inappropriate or jarring interruption.

Anagrammy