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Re: Breastfeeding Website Needs Help
« Reply #30 on: March 02, 2011, 06:38:38 PM »
In the days before the internet, ancient Rome specifically, women who were lactating would go hang around the fountain waiting for clients...

Well dagnabbit - how 'bout that?

I KNEW there was a reason that, whenever I went to the mall, I had this irresistible urge to go visit the fountain and hang there for a while.

It must be in most men's jeans/genes. :)


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Re: Breastfeeding Website Needs Help
« Reply #31 on: March 02, 2011, 08:01:04 PM »


Did you get the help you needed?  I'm not a breast "man" - but I am a mother who did the whole "attachment parrenting" thing a couple of decades ago and did breast feed.  (I won't tell you for how long because my son would kill me - suffice it to say that when he decided not to nurse any more his comment was "this is SILLY!" ) it also happens that I have some web skills and some server space if needed.

Let me know.

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« Reply #32 on: March 02, 2011, 08:37:42 PM »
sorry for the edit, but i must say that i found your information riveting...

Feel free to edit anytime - I usually hate quoting entire posts unless absolutely necessary.

Wikipedia is a tremendous resource, even for medical stuff - but I have certainly also read articles which relied on information which was 20 years old, and completely outdated and, in fact, erroneous. So I leave that stuff to your (generic for "all of you") capable minds to do thorough research from numerous sources, and it wouldn't hurt to consult with your doc or an advance degreed nutritionist for help dividing the wheat from the chaff.

As for NEC, it is an all-encompassing term, no matter the cause. Because the causes are so variant, and in fact, we most often ultimately never know what caused NEC in any one case. The severity runs the entire spectrum - from the entire bowel being dead (rarer as you might imagine) to much smaller sections, perhaps only a few centimeters in length, in which the diseased portion is simply cut out by the surgeon, the distal portion (from the cut to the anus) is often just tucked back in the abdomen, and the other end of the intestine is pulled through a stoma (technically Greek for "mouth" more commonly understood to just mean an "opening"). Depending on the part of the intestine that was operated on, we have terms you have likely heard of before - ileostomy (where a section of the small intestine is pulled through this artificial hole in the abdominal wall) or a colostomy, where a section of the colon, or large intestine is pulled through.

It is common that once we let the gut rest for a while, we can restart feeding, (while using an ostomy bag of course), and in time (surgeon's decision), they go back in and perform a reanastomosis (reconnecting) of the intestines, and, allowing that all goes well, the babies go home just fine. It all depends on how much intestine needed to be initially resected - some babies have ostomies the rest of there lives.

So while I'm not familiar with any vitamin B12 connection and NEC (we rely on our very smart nutritionists to do all the precise calculations for each sick baby), I'll leave you with this personal anecdote.

A few years ago, I had some cardiac procedures done, which meant I had to take an expensive medication, along with an aspirin, every day for the rest of my life.

Well, I fell off the wagon, and ran out of my medication, and did not call in for a refill for 3 months. So, in all my wisdom, I took an extra aspirin a day, rationalizing that it might be roughly equivalent. When I next saw my cardiologist, I told her what I had done, and she gently, but sternly retorted, "I understand why you did what you did, BUT DON'T YOU THINK WE ALREADY THOUGHT OF THAT, AND IT DOESN'T WORK?!?!?!?!)

I sheepishly held my head in shame, and and upon leaving the exam room, replied, ""Yes Amy, I promise to take my meds exactly as you tell me." She was of course, right, and I, wrong. My guess would be the the B12 thing has already been thought of, but you never know - you could write a researcher and make the suggestion, or inquire about it, and become world famous!

@Anagrammy - didn't mean to derail your thread - we can get back on track, and get you a talented web designer. Getting software to do the code for you is easy - and there are hundreds of thousands of free pre-made web templates which you (or whoever) can simply substitute your own content. The tech side is easy - it's the "creative" eye that a truly talented web designer can bring that can make all the difference in the world.



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Re: Breastfeeding Website Needs Help
« Reply #33 on: March 02, 2011, 10:13:05 PM »
So while I'm not familiar with any vitamin B12 connection and NEC (we rely on our very smart nutritionists to do all the precise calculations for each sick baby)
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My guess would be the the B12 thing has already been thought of, but you never know - you could write a researcher and make the suggestion, or inquire about it, and become world famous!

a friend of mine in the Biochemistry department at Baylor is going to send me what detailed info and links she has on vit B12.
However, i think the authors of this http://www.pnas.org/content/early/2010/12/28/1010992108.full.pdf  will produce better understanding for me concerning NEC.
 
world famous? can that be done more than once or twice even??  8)
 
thanks for your time.

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« Reply #34 on: March 02, 2011, 11:56:22 PM »
However, i think the authors of this http://www.pnas.org/content/early/2010/12/28/1010992108.full.pdf  will produce better understanding for me concerning NEC.
 
world famous? can that be done more than once or twice even??  8)

I did read the study you provided from the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences and will quote from it, but add my personal thoughts by emphasizing portions I'll highlight in a different color - orange.

I would also like to point out that this study was performed on ONE infant - I'll have to admit, it takes balls to submit a study for consideration and then perform that study on ONE subject (person) AND get it published. I'll address medical studies in a different thread - I have an idea for the thread topic name already - it might be funny and serious at the same time. Then again, not everyone "gets" my idea of funny :)

From the study:


The intestinal microbiome is a critical determinant of human health... and may be associated with neonatal necrotizing enterocolitis in premature infants.

Conclusions
Attempts to correlate gut microbial community structure with onset of disease in premature infants have yielded conflicting results. For example, in some studies, infants with and without necrotizing enterocolitis (NEC) harbored similar species, whereas in other studies samples from infants with this disease were enriched for a particular species (e.g., Clostridium perfringens) or a particular phylum (e.g., Proteobacteria) (12, 19). In a recent study, Citrobacter was detected in fecal samples from three of four infants with NEC, but in none of the 17 control samples (17). Although it remains possible that Citrobacter is a causative agent for NEC, its presence in samples from the unaffected infant in this study highlights the difficulty in connecting a specific bacterium to disease.

Oh no! I have somehow missed, possibly even TWICE, the world "famousness" of Evil Twin Of Zen. Do we have a celebrity aboard Coastgab?

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Re: Breastfeeding Website Needs Help
« Reply #35 on: March 03, 2011, 07:55:18 PM »
Do we have a celebrity aboard Coastgab?

never a celeb! World famous? Not the "world icon" that would imply. That would be a stretch.
 
Fame is made of circles. Some of my circles extend beyond both coasts. In some of my circles I have Fame. 8)