Topic: Anyone agree that Lionel Fanthorpe is the worst Guest on c2c

[ringthane]

i have to say i think kaku is somewhat overrated.  i came to this conclusion after his disastrous appearance on the opie and anthony show during the gulf oil well disaster.  however, i agree TOTALLY about hoagland.  i find him to be a woefully unimpressive man.

Agreed. Kaku is obviously brilliant, but i think he's a less than ideal ambassador for science. For geeks, yeah, people would glom onto him in a heartbeat. For non-geeks, I can't really see him inspiring the wonders of science in casual laymen.

I kinda cringe every time Art comes back for a guest spot because it's often Kaku that he picks. I wish he'd pick someone else like Brian Green (I think that's his name) or an up-and-comer in the science world that's got a little bit o' fire lit on their ass and want to spread the gospel of thermodynamics.

[Michael Vandeven]

what got me about kaku on the opie and anthony show was when, after listening to kaku go on and on about what they were doing WRONG in the course of  trying to stop the oil leak, comedian patrice o'neal asked him what the solution is.  kaku then proceeded to meander around the queestion for a minute or two, at which point o'neal said, "you really don't know what they should do, do you."  kaku became defensive and absolutely refused to admit he didn't have an answer to the problem.  i don't like people who aren't willing to say, "i don't know."  there is wisdom in those words.

[Chupacabra]

Hoagland DEF in the top 10 worst Guests. I mean whats this enterprise mission iv been listening about for the last 15 years, Mars? BP oil spill, oops, I mean gusher.

[Wizard444]

Lionel is a storyteller and I think I would add that he is a good one.  His campfire style stories are enjoyable and I don't mind listening to them while I'm drifting off.  He's not one of those hang on the edge of your seat guests, but then these days those kinds of guests are rare as a purple unicorn.  What I like best about Lionel is that his stories usually limit the opportunity for George to talk.  That is refreshing.

"Is it evil?"

[haloedorchid]

well, based on what angeleyes posted here, i'd love to hear an interview with fanthorpe, but with anybody but george.  noory just manages to pull the bore out of people.

Lionel Fanthorpe is frequently billed as The Best Storyteller in the World™ by George Noory. So yeah, I'd wait until he is on with another host to truly enjoy his storytelling capabilities.

hi, haloedorchid.  long time no see!

Hello! It's good to be back.

[HAL 9000]

Pardon my "inartful" post regarding Hoagland - don't get me wrong, I stand my by analysis, but I've learned that one needs to disconnect one's keyboard if one takes a prescription sleep-aid and consumes a few cans of Milwaukee's Best, because the desire to post exceeds one's rational ability to resist.

More on point: HOAGLAND and his movie The Hyperdimensional Election of Barack Obama and 2012

Believe me, I would never purchase anything from this charlatan, but I did download a copy (gasp!).

The message was beyond my ability to continue to watch. I lasted maybe 15-20 minutes. Hoagland, is of course, a complete fraud - but when you hear him in the video (essentially him speaking at a podium while doing a slideshow), Hoagland unashamedly sticks his tongue up Obama's anus to extents previously unknown to humans. It is something to behold - maybe portions are on YouTube, or I can make the video available.

My other c2c nemesis would be Catherine Austin Fitts - another fraud. I researched her background, and she has publicly written about her beliefs that the CIA or other governmental agencies import and distribute cocaine and other drugs, purposefully distributing drugs to blacks, in an effort to destroy their race. (easily found by doing your own research)

I have also heard her proselytize the notion of being more "community oriented" when it comes to food, financing, etc. I don't argue with that basic premise, however, this is  coming from a woman who admits she used to live in a mansion and owned a Ferrari. She recently said during a recent interview, that she cannot sell her current house, as she owes more than it's worth.

Even if she were to take a loss, even a large one, for a person who is allegedly a financial "expert" - who used to live in a mansion and own a Ferrari, but can't sell her own home due to the potential loss, is NOT someone I could ever trust for financial advice.

I only listen to c2c when Ian is hosting (he and I share a similar sense of humor - you can decide if that's a desirable trait), and the occasionally George Knapp show in which he's willing to challenge a guest, something Snoory would never dare do. There can be the occasional rare guest Snoory has on which may help my insomnia... So I do essentially remain in Noorvana. (The state of being Noory-free)

One show I particularly enjoyed was the Ian vs. Steve Quayle smackdown. One of my disappointments was Ian's capitulation a few days later, though i understand that one's job can be a great motivator in bending over and grabbing one's ankles.

</tonight's rant off>

[haloedorchid]

That's interesting what you have to say about Catherine Austin Fitts, HAL 9000. I recently looked her up to find out more about her communal-living situation, but couldn't find much information. I did find some other scary stuff, though. I always thought she was a harmless financial advisor who was occasionally on those dreadful financial crisis-themed shows that I have to turn off. Turns out, she is quite a loon. My biggest gripe is with an article she wrote about flu vaccines being a government conspiracy to weed out some of the population.
 
Here:
http://www.infowars.com/catherine-austin-fitts-purpose-of-flu-vaccine-is-depopulation/
 
 I think George Noory, Catherine Austin Fitts, and certain other guests who denounce vaccines and other medical treatments (Christian Wilde and his turmeric hawking in lieu of medication for heart disease, for example) are very irresponsibly promoting information that is foolish and unsubstantiated in most cases. They do not have the medical background to make these claims. I realize a lot of the subjects on Coast to Coast boil down to conspiracies and governmental lies -- I just think certain topics and opinions they spout off should be slightly more researched, or at the very least offered an alternative point of view by someone qualified in the field.

[Michael Vandeven]

Hoagland, is of course, a complete fraud - but when you hear him in the video (essentially him speaking at a podium while doing a slideshow), Hoagland unashamedly sticks his tongue up Obama's anus to extents previously unknown to humans. It is something to behold - maybe portions are on YouTube, or I can make the video available.

oh, god... please post an excerpt.

[fabucat]

Pardon my "inartful" post regarding Hoagland - don't get me wrong, I stand my by analysis, but I've learned that one needs to disconnect one's keyboard if one takes a prescription sleep-aid and consumes a few cans of Milwaukee's Best, because the desire to post exceeds one's rational ability to resist.

More on point: HOAGLAND and his movie The Hyperdimensional Election of Barack Obama and 2012

Believe me, I would never purchase anything from this charlatan, but I did download a copy (gasp!).

The message was beyond my ability to continue to watch. I lasted maybe 15-20 minutes. Hoagland, is of course, a complete fraud - but when you hear him in the video (essentially him speaking at a podium while doing a slideshow), Hoagland unashamedly sticks his tongue up Obama's anus to extents previously unknown to humans. It is something to behold - maybe portions are on YouTube, or I can make the video available.

My other c2c nemesis would be Catherine Austin Fitts - another fraud. I researched her background, and she has publicly written about her beliefs that the CIA or other governmental agencies import and distribute cocaine and other drugs, purposefully distributing drugs to blacks, in an effort to destroy their race. (easily found by doing your own research)

I have also heard her proselytize the notion of being more "community oriented" when it comes to food, financing, etc. I don't argue with that basic premise, however, this is  coming from a woman who admits she used to live in a mansion and owned a Ferrari. She recently said during a recent interview, that she cannot sell her current house, as she owes more than it's worth.

Even if she were to take a loss, even a large one, for a person who is allegedly a financial "expert" - who used to live in a mansion and own a Ferrari, but can't sell her own home due to the potential loss, is NOT someone I could ever trust for financial advice.

I only listen to c2c when Ian is hosting (he and I share a similar sense of humor - you can decide if that's a desirable trait), and the occasionally George Knapp show in which he's willing to challenge a guest, something Snoory would never dare do. There can be the occasional rare guest Snoory has on which may help my insomnia... So I do essentially remain in Noorvana. (The state of being Noory-free)

One show I particularly enjoyed was the Ian vs. Steve Quayle smackdown. One of my disappointments was Ian's capitulation a few days later, though i understand that one's job can be a great motivator in bending over and grabbing one's ankles.

</tonight's rant off>

  The first few times, I thought that Fitts was pretty coherent.  Then I Googled her and found out that Fitts once accused Condoleeza Rice of poisoning her.  I'm no big Condi fan, but why in the feck would Condi want to poison Fitts.  I've been skeptical of anything she says ever since.

[Do you think it was angels?]

what got me about kaku on the opie and anthony show was when, after listening to kaku go on and on about what they were doing WRONG in the course of  trying to stop the oil leak, comedian patrice o'neal asked him what the solution is.  kaku then proceeded to meander around the queestion for a minute or two, at which point o'neal said, "you really don't know what they should do, do you."  kaku became defensive and absolutely refused to admit he didn't have an answer to the problem.  i don't like people who aren't willing to say, "i don't know."  there is wisdom in those words.

A group of wealthy investors wanted to be able to predict the outcome of a
horse race. So they hired a group of biologists, a group of statisticians,
and a group of physicists. Each group was given a year to research the
issue. After one year, the groups all reported to the investors. The
biologists said that they could genetically engineer an unbeatable
racehorse, but it would take 200 years and $100 billion. The statisticians
reported next. They said that they could predict the outcome of any race,
at a cost of $100 million per race, and they would only be right 10% of the
time. Finally, the physicists reported that they could also predict the
outcome of any race, and that their process was cheap and simple. The
investors listened eagerly to this proposal. The head physicist reported,
"We have made several simplifying assumptions... first, let each horse be a
perfect rolling sphere..."

[fabucat]

I'm sorry, but I really like Lionel Fanthorpe, but then I like those Britishy Masterpiece Theater thingies too. 

I like Hoaxland too, for all of his frauds.  I really hope that no one believes him. 

I like Ed Dames, although, thankfully he usually is wrong.  I cut him a lot of slack because he's a combat vet.  Isn't he a decorated vet too?  The last time he was on, I fell asleep to him and had horrible dreams. 

I even have enjoyed Corsi, upon occasion.  I even enjoyed his Shroud of Turin show, even though I don't believe in it and I'm in no way religious. 

Steve Quayle is about the worst.  He's really stupid too.  Dumber than dirt.  He's not even good-bad the way Dames or Hoagland are.   They were re-running a Noory show with Quayle last night.  I had to switch back to Richard Syrett's Conspiracy Show, where he was interviewing some bimbo who had allegedly found a portal to the sixth dimension.  Yup, Syrett and a bimbo are DEFINTELY better than Noory and Quayle AKA "Dumb and Dumber." 

[b_dubb]

http://www.coastgab.com/index.php/topic,2077.0.html

i'm betting the bimbo is the same as the one in the above thread link

[haloedorchid]

He will be on again tonight, in case anyone who is interested didn't already know.

[Jethro Capone]

Call me a nerd, but I really like the guy. He comes across as a genuinely (key word) kind and warm person, and, like me, he's into combat sports. It's not his fault if Noory asks him to tell the same stories each time he comes on the show. Fanthorpe should refuse to even mention Springheeled Jack, though.

[Art Crow]

what got me about kaku on the opie and anthony show was when, after listening to kaku go on and on about what they were doing WRONG in the course of  trying to stop the oil leak, comedian patrice o'neal asked him what the solution is.  kaku then proceeded to meander around the queestion for a minute or two, at which point o'neal said, "you really don't know what they should do, do you."  kaku became defensive and absolutely refused to admit he didn't have an answer to the problem.  i don't like people who aren't willing to say, "i don't know."  there is wisdom in those words.

I think they were talking past each other.  Kaku says you need a team of scientists to figure out how to land a man on the moon and they keep asking if he personally knows how to land a man on the moon. 

[onan]

I think they were talking past each other.  Kaku says you need a team of scientists to figure out how to land a man on the moon and they keep asking if he personally knows how to land a man on the moon.

I really like Kaku. I think he is probably more scientist than the late Sagan was. But Kaku much to his regret is not Sagan and that is probably what Kaku wants most. That is too bad. Kaku at least in my opinion has become a spotlight whore in recent years.


I do not think Sagan would have even bothered with the "Opie and Anthony" type ilk. Kaku getting defensive because of buffoons taunting him is sad on both sides of the aisle. Kaku may not have a quick answer on how to solve some technical disaster but he is more the goto guy than radio personalities who's shtick is to be asses.


But Lionel Fanthorpe, he is a quack. I mean who isn't that lets noory interview them? At least Fanthorpe's stories are intriguing. Of course he is full of crap, but his stories are akin to many other types of entertainment. Without the willing suspension of disbelief it is as much fun as washing the dishes.

[Addis0n]

Oh man I know who you are talking about! I got a show on Demonology and I was like yes awesome! but he is like the steriotypical boring british man.  He talks about cave paintings for like 2 hours and how they relate to the minotaur of cononsis or some ish.
(show I am talking about Apr 7 2011 - Demonology and Ancient Wisdom)

In my opinion that guy and his son who think they are shamans are probably the lamest guests I have ever heard by far.  I got a show called "Paranormal Communications" with Paul and Ben Enos?/Inos?  The show had nothing to do with paranormal really, it was just the guys kid talking about how he thinks he has superpowers and his dad cheering him on and talking about how proud he is of his son.   Its almost entertaining how lame they are, but its also kind of sad.  The whole show they told stories that made no sense and went nowhere regarding energies and ufos at herb farms and the whole time George is like HOW DID YOU GET SO SENSITIVE BEN? HOW DID THIS HAPPEN TO YOU? (show may 16 2011 - paranormal communications)  I actually reccomend you listen to this because it is such a joke.  Count how many times the kid says "like" i just turned the mp3 on i have heard him say "like" at least 10 times I have only been listening "like" 30 seconds or so.

[pabigfoot]

    With respect, you can't be serious. The worst ? Lionel would have a tough time outdoing the ocean of  past "worsts" on C2C, some which are so bad and forgettable they defy description. One example would be the guy Ian had on one saturday night, who rambled on about his topic as Ian must have thought: "who scheduled this guy?". When this slow-moving train reached the time for callers to ask this guy questions, the guest replied he would not take them as that meant he did not explain himself adequately. Ian politely pulled the plug wisely at this point. Now that's a bad guest IMHO.

[Caruthers612]

            On the contrary, I adore Lionel Fanthorpe. Seriously.

[PhantasticSanShiSan]

 

well, based on what angeleyes posted here, i'd love to hear an interview with fanthorpe, but with anybody but george.  noory just manages to pull the bore out of people.

I've always found his stories very nice bedtime listening. Which is what I use C2C for anyway.

Somewhat along the lines of what I would have said.  Voice makes me think of old radio plays and serials.  Plus, he's also a black belt in Judo.   
 

[PhantasticSanShiSan]

Agreed. Kaku is obviously brilliant, but i think he's a less than ideal ambassador for science. For geeks, yeah, people would glom onto him in a heartbeat. For non-geeks, I can't really see him inspiring the wonders of science in casual laymen.

I kinda cringe every time Art comes back for a guest spot because it's often Kaku that he picks. I wish he'd pick someone else like Brian Green (I think that's his name) or an up-and-comer in the science world that's got a little bit o' fire lit on their ass and want to spread the gospel of thermodynamics.

 
 
Agreed again.  I do hate when Art picks Kaku now though because I've felt they've said almost all they have to say to each other.  Except for a part of the tail end of the interview with question of new scientific developments,  I always get a feeling like "I've heard this before."  He is probably one of my favourite guests of the Art era,  but I'm sick of having the phrase "tickling the dragon's tail" randomly pop up in my head like 3 times a year.

[Frys Girl]

I'm sorry, but I really like Lionel Fanthorpe, but then I like those Britishy Masterpiece Theater thingies too. 

I agree. Lionel is great. The stories can get old though. George went through a period where he had Lionel on way too much because people had such a positive response to him. Whoring him out was terrible and it overexposed him. That green children story was good the first time.