Topic: The CoastGab "New Member" Meet and Greet!

[M Knight]

[Agent : Orange]

I don't know much about lunar (nor martian) caves other than a few dozen or so are known, generally I think on the order of 10s of meters across/deep but we don't know how far they may extend under the openings that can be seen.

Very interesting. Are they basically the lunar equivalent of lava tubes?

Fun stuff.  It's a hazing.

Can't wait to get pantsed. :\

[astroguy]

Very interesting. Are they basically the lunar equivalent of lava tubes?

I think that's what most people think, that you've broken through a thin crust region into a lava tube.  But I'm not really sure, I've only seen pretty pictures in press releases, haven't actually read the papers.

[Agent : Orange]

Thanks.  I study craters, at the moment on Mars and Moon.

Well, I'm genuinely curious. What does this entail? What kind of problems are geophysicists interested in when it comes to craters?

[Avi]

Nope, not me. But the methods are very similar. The lenses I play with are made out of the curved spacetime around massive objects. You can describe the phenomenon with an effective index of refraction that varies with the gravitational potential.

She did convey to me that gravitational fields were some part of the question posed to the news group, but I have told her to get on here to convey her own word salad directly. Going through me is dangerous. I asked her, while typing, about indices of refraction. The look she gave me could be loosely translated as, "Is there a frying pan handy?" She is very involved in the mathematical/theoretical end of mechanical engineering (oh yes, she also wanted me to mention that some mechanical devices on earth do make use of relativity - GPS uses an atomic clock, so I believe the ante has been raised on your OCD). She does a lot of modeling (I call it animating) of strange objects. Here is an example:

Powers of the Mandelbulb, Boldly Glowing

I told her that CoastGab had collected a geophysicist who studies craters, and she said, "Ooh! Topology!" But I am just a dumb musician. I fail to be as excited by topology as I should.

As astroguy says, I have often thought of many university programs as hazing rituals. My advice is just to slog through it. Half the time, you're just doing someone else's research, anyway, even if it is paying for your classes. Give them no more and no less than what they ask. Try to get some few papers published, so your CV carries some data. The hiring committee, in the university world, won't even look at your transcripts the nicer and more complete the CV on top of the stack appears to be. If you go into research, the gnomes are only interested in your transcript insofar as it applies to their area of concern. And then, it just comes down to the intangibles, like whether they like you or not. No worries.

[Agent : Orange]

She did convey to me that gravitational fields were some part of the question posed to the news group, but I have told her to get on here to convey her own word salad directly. Going through me is dangerous. I asked her, while typing, about indices of refraction. The look she gave me could be loosely translated as, "Is there a frying pan handy?" She is very involved in the mathematical/theoretical end of mechanical engineering

haha
I don't know if I could be of help, and this thesis really is crushing me right now. But I'd be glad to throw in my $0.02 for what it's worth. The video you linked to is gorgeous!

(oh yes, she also wanted me to mention that some mechanical devices on earth do make use of relativity - GPS uses an atomic clock, so I believe the ante has been raised on your OCD).

She is absolutely correct. The GPS system needs to take into account both special and general relativity to keep the clocks synchronized between satellites, though the time correction from special relativity is much larger than the gravitational part. Anyway there are a few other examples that she could throw back at me as well, including nuclear bombs and power plants for conversion of matter to energy. The repercussions of General Relativity can be observed in the precession of Mercury's orbit, the apparent positions of background stars during solar eclipses, cosmic ray timing experiments and radar ranging in the solar system.

Aside from GPS, which is by now available to nearly everyone I suppose, I stand by my previous statements. The average man that isn't doing cosmic ray timing experiments can get along just fine on the Earth using Newtonian mechanics. It really doesn't affect us very much in *day to day* dealings because of low speed and the weak gravity of the Earth. Once you start noticing things like I mentioned above do relativistic effects become important.

I suspect I'll have to be more precise from now on when in earshot of Mrs. Avi!

As astroguy says, I have often thought of many university programs as hazing rituals. My advice is just to slog through it. Half the time, you're just doing someone else's research, anyway, even if it is paying for your classes. Give them no more and no less than what they ask. Try to get some few papers published, so your CV carries some data. The hiring committee, in the university world, won't even look at your transcripts the nicer and more complete the CV on top of the stack appears to be. If you go into research, the gnomes are only interested in your transcript insofar as it applies to their area of concern. And then, it just comes down to the intangibles, like whether they like you or not. No worries.

Gah. Well, the most I'll say at this point is I'll keep my fingers crossed.

[Michael Vandeven]

I'm actually trying to decide how self-promotive would be acceptable for me to advertise on here...

plug away.

[astroguy]

Well, I'm genuinely curious. What does this entail? What kind of problems are geophysicists interested in when it comes to craters?

Lots o' t'ings.  Right now I'm working on age-dating the largest craters on Mars to explore implications for the solar system's hypothetical Late Heavy Bombardment.

plug away.

  I actually have an interview coming up with the guy who called Mike Bara out on his idiocy with orbits last November 10.  He's the guy George cut off and a later caller told him he shouldn't've.  But George explained that he was just protecting Mike from science and common sense.

(For those who don't remember, Mike was saying that the planet Mars has a hugely eccentric orbit because it goes from 0.5 AU to 2.5 AU from Earth.  The caller (my interviewee on Monday) was trying to tell him that that simply doesn't make any sense because you have to measure the ellipse from one of the foci, in this case the sun, and his claim is like me saying that Earth is about 13,000 km in radius because that's my distance from the other side.  Yeah, it doesn't make any sense.)

[DietCoke]

hey astroguy just thought i would say i listened to your 'hollow earth' podcast, and have to say i really enjoyed it. Don't know if you've already answered this but how did you get into podcasting? I can guess coast to coast and your educational background played a big factor. I think a lot of people would like to do podcasts, etc but a lot of them don't bother to make them -  at least with a decent amount of effort. So props to you for that.

[martinol]

Hi everyone, greetings from Austria!

Listening to C2C on/off for about 3 years now, always fascinated about the spectrum of guests and topics. We don't have anything comparable over here.

I just found this board searching for the 'guy with the deep voice', was lurking a bit and was intrigued how unpopular Noory is! I registered to add my 2c about him.

As I live on the other side of the planet, I rarely hear the show live.
Thanks to Insider I grab the mp3's which spare me the commercial breaks. However, first time I heard Noory start about the damn E-Food stuff I thought it was a joke, but WTH, he does it more and more. Some poster wrote about the Radio Network losing money and I do understand the need for financing other than subscriptions, but this is just ridiculous!

Browsing through this forum it seems that I missed the best of C2C when Art Bell was still on. I actually never thought about Noory as the King of Bad before above mentioned ad-crap. Maybe I'm a little shallow, but I focused more on the guests I guess. Last couple of weeks I too got the feeling that the show is going south.

Grabbing the 1994 Art Bell torrent right now to catch up, with blazing 25k/s

Thx for reading, have a good time! Back to lurking mode

[astroguy]

hey astroguy just thought i would say i listened to your 'hollow earth' podcast, and have to say i really enjoyed it. Don't know if you've already answered this but how did you get into podcasting? I can guess coast to coast and your educational background played a big factor. I think a lot of people would like to do podcasts, etc but a lot of them don't bother to make them -  at least with a decent amount of effort. So props to you for that.

Thanks!  Glad you liked it.  It's typical of what I see this podcast being -- having clips of crazies make their claims and then explain why they're wrong.  It's fun .

I actually wrote this up on another forum a few weeks ago, so here 'tis:

I recorded my first episode in February 2008, and my second one the same month.  I asked for feedback from my parents.  My dad never responded, and my mom gave a polite, "You realize that radio hosts have teams of people writing for them" response.  So I didn't pursue it.  I revived the idea this past summer where (another guy on that board) really was some of the inspiration.  Well, not for doing the podcast in the first place, but for getting me over the hump.  I liked his attitude in his second podcast that he didn't care how many people listened to it, he just liked doing it.

While I've adopted that attitude and released my first episode on August 1, 2011 (after re-recording), I secretly of course hope that more people listen to it.  I think that's just something we want -- we put time and energy into this and we hope to get recognition and appreciation and acceptance from our peers.

I got that a bit with my fourth episode, a "bonus" one, on Comet Elenin.  I had been getting around 100-200 downloads/episode after a week or two of it being out.  Then the owner of 2012hoax.org - who has used my blog a lot in the past as source material for his site - posted about my Elenin episode in the forum on that site and to the twitter feed.  Frasier Cain, publisher of Universe Today which ranks around 13,000-14,000 in popularity of websites IN THE WORLD, posted about my episode.  I went up to 5000+ downloads in a week and a request that it be re-broadcast on a radio show.  I didn't actually gain 5000 subscribers; I'd estimate my subscribers somewhere around 500 now based upon the number of downloads per episode after about a week of it being out.

I'm still trying to figure out how to publicize it more, and I think once I get up to about a dozen episodes out, I'm going to start to contact other people in the astronomy/skeptical/education community and invite them for an interview.  That'll get them free publicity (not that they need it) and get me free publicity when they tell their followers they were on it.  I plan on contacting Phil Plait (who knows me well), Pamela Gay (who I work with on another project), as well as Bob Novella since he's the most astronomy-interested SGU person.  We'll see if my evil plan works.*

I really like listener feedback, and I also wish more people would write reviews on iTunes or just send me e-mails.  I actually have responded to EVERY e-mail written so far, and there were about a dozen that came in the few days after Frasier posted.  The main request I've gotten is to do longer episodes (my length now is around 20-30 minutes).  My initial promise was 10-20 minutes twice a month.  I'd rather under-promise and over-deliver right now rather than the opposite, and I'm over-delivering these days by releasing "bonus" episodes as extras each month now.

In terms of topics, my idea is kinda like Skeptoid but for astronomy.  Targeted, single issues to explore in-depth.  I have NO shortage of topics, though I still encourage people to send in requests, and I'll add them to the schedule.  Right now, I'm planned out through March 2012 with numerous ideas for more that are just not scheduled yet.

*I've followed up on this since I wrote that explanation and I have two guys planned for this month (November), a Mayan expert for December for my "Intro to 2012" month, and both Phil Plait and Pamela Gay have agreed to come on for an interview/discussion at some point in the next few month (Pamela probably in late January after we co-launch a project).

[Vulhala]

Well, hello there!

Been a Coast insider for about 3-4 months now, but have been listening to Art Bell streams for at least 4-5 years. I'm also a subscriber to Howard Hughes' excellent Podcast. I shudder to think how many actual hours that would equate to in time spent absorbing all of that 

I don't buy everything I hear or read, however I feel that it's important that the kind of topics on C2C and elsewhere are researched, given a platform and discussed.

Anyway, I look forward to talking to you guys 


(BTW, I use an forum app called Tapatalk occasionally, and when I first logged into the site, it said I could use it here too. When I tried however, it wouldn't work. Don't know if a Mod wants to look into that or not?)

[Michael Vandeven]

(BTW, I use an forum app called Tapatalk occasionally, and when I first logged into the site, it said I could use it here too. When I tried however, it wouldn't work. Don't know if a Mod wants to look into that or not?)

is it working now?


and welcome to coastgab.

[Vulhala]

Hi 

And no, still nothing. All I get is an error message saying 'Either this forum is restricting access from Tapatalk, or the installed Tapatalk plugin is not working correctly. Please contact your forum admin.'

[Michael Vandeven]

Hi 

And no, still nothing. All I get is an error message saying 'Either this forum is restricting access from Tapatalk, or the installed Tapatalk plugin is not working correctly. Please contact your forum admin.'

ok... how about now?

[Vulhala]

Boom. Sorted

[Michael Vandeven]

Boom. Sorted

nice.  and thanks for the heads up.

[Inana]

Hi All!

Although I've already posted I figured I would introduce myself.  The first show I heard was one wakeful night on a business trip I came across Art's original interview with Jonathan Reed.  I was immediately riveted and have been a fan ever since.  I'm kind of a spiritual type, and my all-time favorite interview was Rev. Howard Storm's NDE, but I also love ghosts, EVPs, pure science, alternative medicine, forbidden archeology and funny cat pictures.

Next to Art, I like Ian the best: he's witty, compassionate, erudite and has the best sign-off in radio, and I'm so sad he's had to cut back to once a month on account of health issues [did anyone else hear the caller who said "tin-tin-itus"?].  I'm cool with the other hosts too, with the exception of he-who-will-not-be-named-here because I want to keep my blood-pressure down.

You all seem like a mighty fine bunch and I'm proud to be here!

Kind regards,
Inana

[Agent : Orange]

Welcome!

[Susan Foreman]

My blood pressure was so high I went straight away to rant on the Sucks! thread, so here is my belated Hello to everyone.
Thanks for all the great posts I've read here.  If nothing else, Nooron's half assed show has inspired so many like minded people to turn up in one place and get to know each other.  Inadvertently  he's ended up doing something worthwhile in spite of himself!

I still listen because I like the type of topics that pop up when he can't get hold of one of his go to guests,  the ones my family describes as "armed luddite god-botherers".  It pains me to listen to his interview, er, skills, but if I like the cut of the guest's jib I can get their book and see what I think, or seek out the same guest on a better show.  I've found some podcasts and local radio shows on this type of thing  that I subscribe to, and it's funny how many jabs GN gets from guest/hosts/listeners.  Thuh whirled is fuhl of haterz don'cha kneeeew.

[Michael Vandeven]

welcome, susan, and all the other people who have recently joined up.  there have been too many to keep up with.

[The General]

Hey there everyone! I'm Kregor and I'm new to the forums.

I won't be coming back because you are a bunch of lame, negative pricks that have no life and will be forever alone and I hate you all.
Please allow your testicles to descend so I can kick you in them.

I hate you all.

Then it sounds like you'll fit right in.
Welcome to Coastgab.  Post often.

[Agent : Orange]

Hey there everyone! I'm Kregor and I'm new to the forums.

I won't be coming back because you are a bunch of lame, negative pricks that have no life and will be forever alone and I hate you all.
Please allow your testicles to descend so I can kick you in them.

I hate you all.

I think I'm in love!

[11angeleyes11]

Hey there everyone! I'm Kregor and I'm new to the forums.

I won't be coming back because you are a bunch of lame, negative pricks that have no life and will be forever alone and I hate you all.
Please allow your testicles to descend so I can kick you in them.

I hate you all.

To my dearest Kregor:

I am a lover of all things Noory.  Welcome!

Now, addressing your last statement, "I hate you all."  Welcome again. 

All sides may comment here.  Now, back to that strong statement, "I hate you all."  You have some Noorish viewpoints, and have identified yourself as a hater.  You win in two ways.  You support George.  You are a member of the identified class "haters."  Good for you!!!
Post often.

[gfanikf]

Hey,

I'll just do a quick introduction. I've always loved reading about paranormal and cryptozology stuff as a kid. You can blame a David Cohen(?) book called The Mummys Curse and 100 other tales (something like that), heck I still have it, for wanting to learn and read about all this stuff. The game Deus Ex got me interested in conspiracy stuff (but at the same time a lot of the stuff wasn't fun or enjoyable as was often tied to racist loons). First actual experience with Coast to Coast with a Tool album funny enough.

I did try listening and subscribing to C2C recently, but mostly for the older episode archives. I didn't particularly like Noory and the subject matter kind of sucked (Anti-Vaccine just pisses me off). spiritual stuff isn't my bag.  I did like the one Ian (I think) did with Max Brooks as if World War Z had been real. but even for all the content I did download and archive, I often found it plodding and kind of hard to listen to. Art tends to be a lot easier to listen too and the shows don't often have split subjects.

Oh I have a website too, but truthfully I just do some very high level management on it and let my main reviewer run (and get everything). It's called HK AND CULT FILM NEWS. I won't include a link since I'm not sure if that's an issue, and if people know it that's cool, but I'm not out to try and get clicks for amazon commission and free stuff (not anymore at least lol)

I do intend to pick a new avatar at some point.

[Michael Vandeven]

Oh I have a website too, but truthfully I just do some very high level management on it and let my main reviewer run (and get everything). It's called HK AND CULT FILM NEWS. I won't include a link since I'm not sure if that's an issue, and if people know it that's cool, but I'm not out to try and get clicks for amazon commission and free stuff (not anymore at least lol)

hey, brother.  posting a link is not a problem at all.  the only requirement is that you be a real human.  also, you must legitimately intend to use the forum, not just post links and never post again.


and welcome to coastgab.

[gfanikf]

hey, brother.  posting a link is not a problem at all.  the only requirement is that you be a real human.  also, you must legitimately intend to use the forum, not just post links and never post again.


and welcome to coastgab.

Thanks

[hosehead]

A lurker.  Long time Coast listener on the East Coast.  Stopped listening to the live broadcast after Art quit for real.  Noory continued to get worse instead of improving.  I am not sure I can wrap my head around that bit.  I think he has some serious personal issues.

I have been posting recently as my 15-month-old has decided he does not like to sleep any longer.  I have been listening to Coast live for the first time in a long time in the hope Noory will dumbify my mind so hard I will just cease having the will to stay conscious.  It works; might be an alternative to general anesthetic.

Seems like a nice group of core members here; nice wit and banter.  Thanks for the laughs.

[Michael Vandeven]

A lurker.  Long time Coast listener on the East Coast.  Stopped listening to the live broadcast after Art quit for real.  Noory continued to get worse instead of improving.  I am not sure I can wrap my head around that bit.  I think he has some serious personal issues.

I have been posting recently as my 15-month-old has decided he does not like to sleep any longer.  I have been listening to Coast live for the first time in a long time in the hope Noory will dumbify my mind so hard I will just cease having the will to stay conscious.  It works; might be an alternative to general anesthetic.

Seems like a nice group of core members here; nice wit and banter.  Thanks for the laughs.

thanks for joining, and please post often.

[mannequin]

Hello coastgab members.

I'm here because I enjoy coast, but like most of you, can't take Noory anymore.
For me, Coast to Coast has become a disappointment.

Here's what I think of the hosts:

George Noory
Delusional - Get over yourself George!
Arrogant - Notice how he feigns ignorance to certain callers, and for what reason? Also cuts off calls that sound fine to me!
Unfunny - The vocal sound fx, the "JC" calls, the "inside jokes" so many things...
Insane - The toupee, P90X (LOL), work-from-home ads on the c2c site (WTF), his stupid "origin" stories, etc.

Ian Punnett
"Ah, you know...uhm...didja ever wonder...ahhh..."
Ian also needs to get over himself.

George Knapp
I kinda like him, because he is an actual journalist.

John B. Wells
Not bad, a little extreme politically.

Rob Simone
No opinon really, just kind of bland.
He could step up his game.

Whitley Strieber
Just say NO.

The guests:

Ed Dames
Always wrong.
His antics remind me of the ridiculous Col. Flagg on M.A.S.H.

Steve Quayle
Out of his fucking mind.

Richard C. Hoagland
A 200,000 mile wide mothership. Really Richard? So it's a, uh, 200,000 mile wide mothership huh?
Also, out of his mind.

Dr. Bruce Goldberg
I've never heard anyone so full of shit in my life.
Listen to him, he will adapt his storytelling to any situation.

Catherine A. Fitts
This is an example of a GOOD GUEST.

Gerald Celente
This is an example of a GOOD GUEST.

Alex Jones
Dude has huge cajones, I respect that.

That's all I have for now lol.
I listen to most of the podcasts, so I'll be posting here and there.
Thanks for reading.

-Peace-