Topic: Enivronmentalist Doomsayers all part of the schtick?

[Caruthers612]

    When Art first jumped ass-first on the Global Warming bandwagon, and did so with an intellectual blindness, an unwillingness to even consider that the world wasn't coming to an end (by global warming or any of the other means the enviro-douche bags have been yapping about forever), he really got on my nerves. I'd expect it from Whitley, who didn't disappoint, but the ferocity with which Art pursued the "The Sky is Falling" agenda made me wonder a couple of things:
     1) Why, all of a sudden, did he bust out the rectal approach to life?
     2) Since I have, in the years since, come to realize just how brilliant he was at playing the character he created for the show, I wondered if, at least mostly, and since declaring that Man was about to reap what he'd sown (only, in this era, by environmental means, not by being sinners who pissed off God as people did in centuries past) was now en vogue, Art had simply found a way to reignite the show.
   3) It is well-known that as people grow old, they unwittingly start to believe/perceive that because their world is coming to an end, the world is coming to an end. The distinction between the two becomes harder to see the older we get, not just because our own death looms ever larger, but because all those aspects of culture, the social order and so on that existed when we were growing up have more or less vanished from the world. Thus, as Art approached and then passed sixty (while this isn't very old), I wondered if I was hearing the rumblings of a curmudgeonly older man who had lived a long time and was feeling the fatigue of a lifetime in his bones.
       In any case, of note in this context is that a) as increasing evidence emerged that global warming was likely just a natural, cyclical chance such as the earth has been through countless times and not something caused by man, Art brushed over this and changed his tune to "I don't care what the cause" like nothing had happened, and b) when increasing evidence emerged that we may in fact be heading into another ice age and not a warmer period, and overnight the global warming doomsayers substituted "climate change" for global warming, Art seamlessly jumped on board with that, too.
      Bottom line: By now you've figured out that I think it's all crap and environmentalists make excellent fertilizer. That's not the point, we all have our own opinions on this and other matters. My point is, as the rest of you listened to Art's many shows on this, did you have similar thoughts and questions as to where he truly is at?

M

[MV]

here are my thoughts:

when the topic is "climate change"... i tune out.  i don't care who is hosting.  i'm sick of it all.  if i hear one more peep about green this or green that, i'll pop a vessel.  trendy, starbucks-swilling yuppie dogshit.

so, to answer your question, i'll say yes, this always annoyed me about art, too.

[Caruthers612]

here are my thoughts:

when the topic is "climate change"... i tune out.  i don't care who is hosting.  i'm sick of it all.  if i hear one more peep about green this or green that, i'll pop a vessel.  trendy, starbucks-swilling yuppie dogshit.

so, to answer your question, i'll say yes, this always annoyed me about art, too.

      You've no idea what relief your forthright response brings me. I have long been feeling like the last sane man "in a world gone mad..." I, too, tune out when any of the hosts start in on the green looney/enviro-douche material. While I absolutely agree with what Rush has long pointed out, the political ramifications of the environmental movement--ranging from more government control of our lives, more regulations, more taxes, less freedom--there is, for me, another aspect of the whole business that is at least as serious: the fundamental corruption of science.

     Science is sacred and sacrosanct. It is the candle in the darkness. It is what took us from the pre-Newtonian centuries of fear, superstition and darkness to the modern age. It is also our only hope, both in terms of survival, and in terms of our gradual physical and societal evolution into a new human age in which we are at last able to escape what had previously seemed to be immutable: the human condition itself.

      Between the hack scientists who throw their integrity to the four winds to get a position at a university; the pseudo-science that is published and accepted as science for the sake of social and professional kudos and advancement; the willingness to comply in order to obtain grant money--take your pick. True science has been under assault for years. We are literally living in a new Dark Age, meaning that just as the Church once used its then unassailable power to declare what was true and what was false, and in the process cowed and terrorized the likes of Copernicus, Galileo, Bruno and others, the new arbiter of Official Truth is the odious power structure that is the collusion between environmentallist groups, government, and many others who have a vested interest in the perpetuation of the Big Lie.

      I believe that in the end, the truth will out. It always does, and, as the saying goes, science never stops. Besides, ironically, the same super elite that seeks to prevent such advances for the masses (since if we get it we won't need them, and the very basis of what is called power will crumble), they simultaneously desperately want it for themselves. They will kill for immortality, unending youth, freedom from disease, and all the other Star Trek-like miracles that will be made possible through quantum dots, nanotech, and so on. Their lust for such transcendence ensures that the research will continue, and one day, despite their best efforts to keep all these goodies to themselves, evolution itself and a few well-placed Molatov cocktails ;-) will wrest these wonders from their clutches.

       Wow, what a rant. Maybe I should start that radio show I've long been thinking of doing.

M

[AmericanGothic]

While I agree with the opinions expressed here about global warming, I have to say Snoory's nightly interviews with economic doomsayers is much more annoying than Art's paranoia about the weather. As a matter of fact, Snoorys endless obsession with bad news is the very thing that led me to this site.

I sent him a letter a couple of weeks ago, here's how it went:

"As a very long time listener (since Art was hosting Dreamland, actually) this is the first time in the history of Coast to Coast AM that I am seriously considering shutting off the radio while the main host is on--the main host in this case being you, George Noory.
 
The negativity of the show while you are hosting has grown to the point where I dread hearing your voice because I just know you're going to have a first hour guest that is going to tell us we're all doomed.
 
My parents are about to retire Mr. Noory, and they have lost over 60% of their savings in this economy. I have lost just about everything. Do you honestly think that I don't know the economy is in bad shape?

Why is it you persist on hammering your listeners with thee most dreadful news you can drum up? I thought both you and Art believed in the power of mass consciousness? All you're doing is spreading fear and doubt, not in fact "just keeping the public informed" as you claim you're doing.
 
 
Last night (Monday, January 19th) I heard George Knapp say that he is aware of the complaints the negativity Coast to Coast is becoming known for now, and said he agrees and is keeping the bad news to the minimum.
Yes, Mr. Noory, I understand that you have a responsibility to report the news, but you don't need to keep inviting these guests back that are *literally nothing but doom and gloom*.
 
I am tired of it, and I am done with you.
 
As a last aside, let me tell you that I successfully quit smoking after 25 years of a 2 pack-a-day habit--pretty much cold turkey, mind you, so it won't be as hard as I probably imagine to tune you out.
 
Thanks for reading this far, and let's hope enough people feel the way I do so changes are made."

[Pirate King Atomsk]

I for one tune out for the "climate change/global warming" shows and the "financial disaster" shows. I understand that both are important, relevant topics...but they just bore me. Can't we go back to talking predominantly about aliens, physics, dark matter, black holes, the paranormal, conspiracies, religious fanaticism, ect ect? That's what brought life to C2CAM for me. First thing though, is to get Snoory out the door, replace him with Knapp or another suitable host, and get back to the original topics. You can still do those kinds of shows, but just not so freakin much.

[haloedorchid]

I, too, am completely sick and tired of these types of shows. As well as the financial crisis shows. If I never hear Catherine Austin Fitts or God forbid Gerald Salente(?) again, it will be too soon. How many effing times can they do shows about these issues?? Not enough, apparently. I started listening in the first place because of the other-worldly, paranormal topics. If I want to hear doom and gloom I can tune into any regular news show or website. Coast to Coast AM was meant for the bizarre and unexplained. They really need to consider getting back to the original format.